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will b gettin my jdm h22a in a couple of days. i will not b rebuilding engine but will install ngk iridium plugs, timing belt, water pump, tensioner,and gaskets associated with the process. will it b a good idea to use synthetic oil right away.? and what is a good break in period if any for used jdm h22a?
4 got to add wat r good synthetic oils to use

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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

I bought my prelude at 200k body, 90k engine, with h22a. The previous owner was using Mobile 1 oil. I switched to Royal Purple synthetic oil. It's used for racing I assume, high stress performance. Guy said people form the tracks buy it in case's.

At 8 dollars a quart, you get what you pay for, top notch. I would suggest royal purple, or castrol edge.
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Ok thanx. mobile 1 will then b my cheapest route wen money is tight. i will budget for that royal purple. i've seen castrol edge on the shelfs, but havent heard about. has anyone heard or used amsoil or something like that..? hav'nt used synthetic yet, mayb thats why my h23 didnt last as long
someone had mentioned to me that using full synthetic, will increase oil changes cause they burn faster..?
how much better is using full synthetic vs good conventional oil?
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

Full synthetic overall is just better in everyway but once you switch over to full synthetic it should b noted you can never go back to conventional oil. And full syntheitc lasts longer than conventional. really the only downfall is its just more expensive. Get royal purple its better dont skimp on your engine oil its the engines life blood.
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royal purple it is then. thanx. wats the best filter to match wit RP.
the jdm supplier guesstimated the h22 shipping to me will be havin at most 45k miles.. since its used should i still b changing oil at 3k miles or 3 months with the syntec oil?
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K&N oil filter and go ahead and get a new fuel filter also if you can afford it a puralator fuel filter will b like 10 bucks but you can get pretty fuel filters that are like red or blue or chrome. and go ahead and delete your intake resonator if you dont mind your car being a bit louder
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

Point your browser to www.bobistheoilguy.com and do your own research. Don't just take what people say as being gospel.
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

just my $.02 on this. royal purple is garbage. it might be "high performance" but if you like adding a quart to your car every week, then its not your oil. that sht burns FAST. i used to put incastrol syntec. put maybe a quart in between oil changes. i just decided to try royal purple and im going on my third quart in like 1000 miles. plus it breaks down super fast. unless your changing your oil all the time, def not worth it
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Using oil purly because it's reccommended by race teams isn't neccessarily a good idea. Most big teams get their oil free (or at a seriously discounted rate due to the sheer amount that they use) and in addition to that, they're rebuilding the engine between races anyway. While I can't speak for every team or discipline of motorsport, but I know local teams that dump and change the oil after every session. This can equate to 6 or 8 oil changes across a race weekend. Yes the loads and temperatures are higher than what you would experience with your road car, but road users have this crazy idea that they should be able to travel 5-10,000km between oil changes. A race engine simply wouldn't tolerate this.
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

thanx everyone for ur input. Brash thanx for that link. very knowledgable. i thought i was buyin the right grade all this time thinkn thicker is better in older cars.. from reading that post i think i rode my poor lude 2 the floor.. i used good convetional 10-30 oil but varied in manufatures depending on my budget wen it came time to change. tried to stick wit castro high milage n always used fram filters.
will take care of this h22 better n only use one syntc brand oil.
since the h22a wit p13 redlines higher (than the h23) to i think 8k, will using 20 grade oil b a good idea or should i stick to the recommended 30 grade?
car will b my DD n probably hit vtec once and awhile.
im located in central CA.
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

for filters use the altrom filters from napa. they are like 6 bucks and just as good as k&n\mobil
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

I've used Mobil 1 on all my cars since I was 17 (25 now), always happy with it. Few years ago when I had my Accord, during the summer I'd normally run Royal Purple 'cause I was taking it to the track about every two weeks. It definitely burned faster. Can't say it did anything performance wise, I just figured it'd be the safest bet for my engine since I was going to put it through some stress.
I've only had my Prelude for a little over a year now and didn't get a chance to take it to the track at all yet, so haven't tried the Purple in it yet. Next summer after school gets out I'll definitely have it a track and will try Purple in it.
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

amsoil> royal purple.

motul also makes better oil
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

What I use...

When I'm feeling baller= Redline oil
when I'm feeling budget baller= Amsoil
when I'm feelin cheap but want some synt= Royal Purple
when I'm feeling oem= Honda's Mobil 1
strapped on cash= Penzoil
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I never had any problems with burnoff when I used royal purple in my 200sx turbo . . .

and K&N has the little nut thing that is why I <3 them.

Use wikipedia its great for research
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

First off I'd say synthetic is the way to go, why else would they use it in big expensive equipment like jets/airliners, they used their search button a lot to make sure they aren't killin people and that's what they trust.

As for brand I'd go with amsoil..after-all they're the originators of synthetic oils
stick with the grade/weight of oil your car recommends. I used to use castrol until I found out it's made by BP, if you're alright with that it's up to you. I always hear people rep mobil 1, but personally I'd prefer amsoil.

As far as the oil filter goes, the only reason I don't like the mobil one and k&n oil filters is that the actual filter is so small..you want a quality made (this means not fram), large as possible filter/filter element. I could hit the search button for you but to tell you the truth you will learn a lot more and get more first hand knowledge if you search it out yourself..not tryin to sound like a d-bag but this is an opinion question so you should have your own.
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

ive been using mobile one forever. its good stuff. i used royal purple and i just did not really like it. like said it burns too quickly and it almost seemed like water.. i use the fram X@ (xtended guard, their top of the line) and its a very good filter, on par with K&n and mobile one. i also use the one for the s2k, as its smaller and makes vtec a little more noticeable.. besides that just stick with OEM sized.
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I use regular dino oil. No need to waste money on synthetic oil.
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Re: opinions on synthetic oil

great posts everyone. ur opinions r valued b me including urs theway.. n no i dont think ur a d-bag. if anything im the one that sounds like a dumb***> i hav done some research on the big name brand oils. i felt there faqs just blinded me n they all say equivilant or exceed oem specs. thats why i needed first hand experiences from real drivers like yall fellow luders.
thanx again brash for that link. its been bookmarked. after reading that i felt more of a dumb***. b4 that article i had no idea of chemical properties that oil undergoes. now i hav some from that article n everyones personal experiences. im still nowhere close of an expert on oil but hav a better idea on what to look for with my driving specifications.
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It is not. The fact that anybody can edit the content is not only a good thing but it's weakest point. For example I could edit the page on deer and carry on about how they've evolved from a massive flying dinosour like the Pteridactyl, even though I've never actually seen a deer. And until some veterinarian or biologist sees it and thinks "wow, I never knew that" it will be true.

This is why wikipedia is not an acceptable reference source for a school project, and why it is not accepted here.
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out of curiousity how would a smaller filter make vtec more noticable
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I have never read anything incorrect on wikipedia. yes anyone can edit it. But anyone can also make a bogus page on the internet. Not to mention if you go to every manufacturers website that makes oil they all claim to have the best so one of them has to be wrong. at least wikipedia is unbiased. There is also a whole thing of references on the bottom.
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out of curiousity how would a smaller filter make vtec more noticable
A smaller filter might have a lower pressure drop across it, so could allow more pressure to be available when required to engage the high cam. (Remember from the video that VTEC engagement is driven by oil pressure)

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at least wikipedia is unbiased. There is also a whole thing of references on the bottom.
Wikipedia itself is unbiased, but the people who write on it may not be. There is nothing stopping me from getting on there and saying for example "Mobil 1 is crap, you shouldn't use it in any engine more complex than a lawnmower". At the end of it, wikipedia is good if all you need is a quick summary. If you require actual information, then go to the reference pages that are provided.

I repeat my initial statement, wikipedia itself is NOT an acceptable reference source.
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I use and whole heartedly endorse Royal Purple. I have compared it against Mobil 1, Eneos, and Amsoil myself and it comes out on top. That said, I run regular old Castrol GTX in the lude because that is what two of the most knowledgeable Prelude people in town told me to do, despite the fact they both sell Royal Purple.
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