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92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

First off my 92 was bought 3 years ago with 33000 original miles. The car pulls to the right, what could cause this ? Alignment shop say's alignment is ok. It had pirelli tires that were wearing good. I put new falken tires on it & they start cupping bad even with proper rotation. Switched to toyo proxes & the same thing. Whats up with that ? Car fax is clean, car doesnt appear to have any body work from wreck. Really need help any ideas ?
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

Did they actually show you the alignment specs? I never trust a shop if they say my alignment is ok. I usually sit in the car while they align it
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

ya, id definately go to another shop to check thr alignment
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

how bad does it pull to the right? if its a little bit then ill tell you this...thats how hondas are made (if you dont have lsd)
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

#1 I believe that cupping (when you have good tires) is usually a suspension issue. When did you last look at your suspension?

#2 If it is only your rear tires cupping, it is probably alignment related.

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Best of luck buddy, My money is on a worn suspension but I could be wrong.
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

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how bad does it pull to the right? if its a little bit then ill tell you this...thats how hondas are made (if you dont have lsd)
I work at Honda, we build the Accord, Pilot, Odysee, & Ridgline. Honda's are not made to pull to the right. I appreciate the feedback but this statement is wrong.
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

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#1 I believe that cupping (when you have good tires) is usually a suspension issue. When did you last look at your suspension?

#2 If it is only your rear tires cupping, it is probably alignment related.

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Best of luck buddy, My money is on a worn suspension but I could be wrong.
I looked at it yesterday. Everything looks ok. I cant really tell but I think it may be the rear & when rotating the tires it damaged the front. I have all new struts I'm putting on & I'll have another shop check the alignment. The last shop I went to said the alignment was out a little & he adjusted it, still pulls to the right. I heard online once that this model Prelude has probs with the spool valve in the steering gear box or rack, not really sure. Ever heard of this ? Thanks.
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

Never heard of an issue with the spool valve -- the only issue I'm familiar with regarding power steering is lag in the 5th gen system, and even that's only a problem unique to autocrossing or some track conditions.

Cupping or feathering is usually a toe-related alignment problem, and Preludes are very sensitive to it, especially if the suspension's been modified in any way. There shouldn't be any problems with the tie rods at only 33,000 miles (unusually low mileage for a '92!). Possibly a bent wheel? I've had a couple that were bent just enough to cause the tire to wear, but not enough to cause lots of vibration in the steering.
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

make sure when they check the alinment that they do a caster sweep if a bushing or something is worn out causing cross caster to be out more than a degree this will also cause a pull even if your toe and camber are correct .
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

If everything seems to be fine try swaping the drivers side tire to the passanger side and viceversa ( only if u dont have directional tires) that worked for me on my wifes corolla
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

mine pulls to the left, not sure why doesnt really bother me though.
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

Possible areas I have seen summarized
1 Toe in (Should have been fixed by alignment.)
2 Bad tires. (Toyo shouldnt be the cause.)
3 bent rim (Should be caught during balancing)
4 Caster wear (thx element600rr)
5 Shocks or springs need replacing (Sounds like you have done that.)
6 Suspension hardware other than shocks or springs
http://web.archive.org/web/200306201...on+-+Front.pdf

Sorry to hog space, this should be a good list of things to check AND help us from repeating the same possible causes. I have no new ideas... maybe some harmonic issue?
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

Thanks for all input. Hopefully i can figure it out.
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

have u checked the bushings on the front of the car right behind the bumper and made sure the nuts were tight mine had backed off and it pulled really bad.
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

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have u checked the bushings on the front of the car right behind the bumper and made sure the nuts were tight mine had backed off and it pulled really bad.
I'll go check that right now. Thanks.
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make sure when they check the alinment that they do a caster sweep if a bushing or something is worn out causing cross caster to be out more than a degree this will also cause a pull even if your toe and camber are correct .
what is a caster sweep & how do you do it ?
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Re: 92 si pulls to the right, whats the deal ?

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have u checked the bushings on the front of the car right behind the bumper and made sure the nuts were tight mine had backed off and it pulled really bad.
Checked them & they were tight.I did notice my upper ball joint dust boots were busted. I'll check to see if the ball joints are ok.
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