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What's better NOS.. or Boost..

I have a 4th gen prelude, i dropped an h23 vtec in and now I want more power.. The question i have is I have a friend with a great deal on a entire turbo setup. and when I was at the last car meet here in georgia I met a guy with a 5th gen that had a Zex nitrious system, and it was super fast.. So with the high compression would it be better to put Nos on my engine or boost.. I've heard that when you boost a vtec motor you have to leave it at around 7psi at most or you'll blow the motor, and some say when Vtec kicks in it can blow it anyways.. I also hear that Nos works really well with the H motors but can wear it out really quick.. So if anyone knows whats better or more info on the subject, Please respond.. Thanks for your time... Ohh and I was only going to put like a 50 or 75 shot of nos if i went that direction.. and maybe a fogger system...
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

Boost so you don't die as fast

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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

to do either one right cost a decent amount ( TURBO IS DEFF MORE MONEY THOUGH ) depends what your looking for i had a semi built h23 with a 150 shot and the car was an animal it ran great for over a year and a half ( at the track every other weekend to ) i had a turbo h23 also and it was great in its own way also but it cost me 3 times as much to build and it was always something with that set up . turbo if your looking for auto cross or something of that nature if money isnt tight and you can do without the car when it breaks nitrous if you just want that extra pep now and then ( better for daily driver in my opinion ) . i just bought another prelude ( 98 base ) im going with pistons cams and a 150 shot again . ive owned both and turbo set ups on these cars equal head aches .. put in a set of pistons and get yourself a nice wet kit you will be happy i promise
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

you hear things from all the wrong people. and just so you know, NOS is a brand, not what all nitrous is called lol. but 7-9psi on a T3/T4 hybrid is pretty safe on a stock h. lilbluelude is running a fully built h with 29psi. youll get more bang for your buck with turbo, plus more flexability. youll just have to keep refilling your tank with nitrous. in the end though its all up to you man. my vote is for boost
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

As far as Nitrous goes, the only real advantage (imo) is that you can completely turn it off when you dont' want/need to use it. Yes you can always drive off boost, but an incorrectly sized turbo will be very laggy and will be incredibly annoying down low.

Both are safe when done properly, and while a nitrous system will be cheaper in the short term, constantly refilling the bottle will get annoying fast, and the ongoing charge will hurt. The initial outlay for a boosted (be it turbo or supercharger) system will hurt, but that's all upfront and once only. Well, once only if you do it right.

And as UPSluder stated, NOS is a brand (a Holley performance brand so their marketing says), not a product. Nobody says I'll give you a call on your Nokia do they? Or I'll just put my asics on and we can go. No they don't they say they'll call your phone (or cell phone) and they speak of putting their shoes on, sneakers if they want to get techincal.

Seriously, the next person who asks if they can put NOS on their car will be banned.
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

Yes i understand that NOS is a Brand i was just useing it for short hand ,, meaning Nitrious.. Thanks for all the input.. I think i have made up my mind.. I'm pretty sure im just getting the Nitrous system. It's just a lot easier for me to afford and put in myself,and to have the ability to turn it on and off when i want it will be nice,considering its on my DD... Any advice on what system to run with??? Also i thought most of use where car guys and would understand what i meant.. I didn't think i had to to Spell things out, Like turbo charged and Nitruous.. Anyways Most people i talk to Just call any nitrous system Nos or Spray.. and turbo, Boost.. Not all so specific as most you guys i guess..

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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

boost!!!!!... at least you know how fast your going...
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

HAHAHAHA BRASH = WIN. thank you. That is all.
IMO.... turbo. BUT turbos can be a HUGE PITA!! I have absolutely no experience with Nitrous systems but I know that turbos, if not done and maintained properly, can really be a money pit and a headache. If you have the money to spend to get it installed properly and maintained, I would rather have the turbo setup, But that's just my opinion. Go with the nitrous if that's what you want. I think you have had a few different opinions now so yeah....

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jst so so were all on the same page, this guy does know N20 is not street legal right?... when a turbo is....
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jst so so were all on the same page, this guy does know N20 is not street legal right?... when a turbo is....
X2. If a cop searches your car and sees the bottle is hooked up u can get in some trouble kiddo!! Lol

But anyways. U should go look in our nitrous section. Its not very large but I've posted in a few of the threads and u should be able 2 learn more about everything your wanting to know.

Oh and for the record, I wouldnt just "slap some pistons and cams" in a h22 and spray a 150 shot.....just sayin. Nitrous has more 2 do with fuel management and spark than it does pistons and cams. Spray a 150 shot with no type of fuel management and see what happens
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

I've done a lot of research on this topic myself. I'm thinkin of sprayin my car. Zex makes an awesome wet kit n its really easy to install. As far as the "shot" is concerned on stack internals dnt go any bigger then a 75 shot. Anything larger n the nitrous tends to clot in cylinder 1 causing premature wear. If u want over a 75 shot (or even for a 75 shot IMO) u def wanna go direct port. Much more even burn n is safer. Ur also gonna want a wet not a dry kit. The difference is a wet kit mixes w/fuel before going into the motor n a dry does it while entering. High comp pistons n cams will help make some power along w/ur nitrous but that doesn't make it ok to run a 150 shot. Ill be doing full forged internals wen I build my setup. Can take more abuse. But engine managment is a MUST!!! If ur not tuned for spray somethins gonna blow up. That's just simple mechanics. W/a 75 shot or lower u shouldn't have to retard the timing any...maybe a degree. 150 shot ur prolly gonna need 2 degrees maybe 3. As for legality u can get an electronic bottle opener/closer. Legally u can have nitrous in the bottle n the bottle connected but u can't have the bottle on. W/an electronic opener....u get pulled over hit a switch...ur legal. I too like nitrous' appeal of daily driven capability...that being use when u want it. Long story short do u research,take ur time n do it right. U can drop a grand on a nitrous setup but if its done wrong it can cost u ur motor or any other amount/equivilant of money. Boost isn't cheap either. As for which is better I believe its entirely opinion. But %99.5 of guys on here will tell u to research. I've got countless hours of time spent on my computer just searchin for stuff. Last night I did some research on retrofits for about 4 hrs. If u want it bad enough u won't mind puttin the time in to do it right. Anyways good luck w/ur build n hopefully I gave u some useful info.
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But engine managment is a MUST!!! If ur not tuned for spray somethins gonna blow up. That's just simple mechanics.
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This. Either way you are getting tuned. It has always been explained that Nitrous is the most bang for your buck. You push a button and guess who has 30+ more hp? You guessed it. But with boost its more of a laid back thing, the initial cost is higher, but then all you have to worry about is maintenance once you are boosted. Whereas with Nitrous you are constantly refilling bottles (if you choose to use your nitrous). Personally if you are looking at the FI section of the world I would check out a SC setup, just because that is the simplest form of FI (other than Nitrous) IMO. Doesn't make as much power, but it makes power down low, which is REALLY noticeable on Honda's, although you are capped, whereas with a turbo you can always upgrade to a larger turbo, with SC's usually after 9psi the IAT's are too high for the supercharger to be efficient. All up to you though. Good luck with your decision.
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

I have a F22 and i plan to buy a turbo kit, but since money is short right now, i will have some fun with a Nos system i have at home.

Calling a Nitrous system a NOS system is like asking for a soda and calling it a COKE, it is not fair to ban someone for personal brand preferences
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Re: What's better NOS.. or Boost..

I'd preferably go boost because refilling nitrous bottles constantly would suck and cost a lot more than expected in the long run.
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X2. If a cop searches your car and sees the bottle is hooked up u can get in some trouble kiddo!! Lol

But anyways. U should go look in our nitrous section. Its not very large but I've posted in a few of the threads and u should be able 2 learn more about everything your wanting to know.

Oh and for the record, I wouldnt just "slap some pistons and cams" in a h22 and spray a 150 shot.....just sayin. Nitrous has more 2 do with fuel management and spark than it does pistons and cams. Spray a 150 shot with no type of fuel management and see what happens

walboro 255 will work just fine ( by the way the cast pistons are the weak link so pistons do matter alot ) notice i said wet shot not dry i had a 4 nozzel system with a separate fuel rail and a separate nitrous rail hence a nice nitrous system and the extra fuel to go with it . as far as spark the ob2 preludes you cant just turn the distributor for timing as you could on the gen 4 cars if your worried about that extra little power get from igniton advance get a decent ecu . no i wouldnt just get a 150 single nozzel dry shot and expect it to hold up no . but even with the right fuel air nitrous mix spray a 150 shot on stock pistons and see how far you make it . im just sayin
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By fuel management he meant a stand alone system, IE Hondata, Neptune, Chrome, that kind of thing. Not a fuel pump :P
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to do either one right cost a decent amount ( TURBO IS DEFF MORE MONEY THOUGH ) depends what your looking for i had a semi built h23 with a 150 shot and the car was an animal it ran great for over a year and a half
initially... but in the long run boosting it will save you money considering you will need to refill the bottle of nitrous.
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walboro 255 will work just fine ( by the way the cast pistons are the weak link so pistons do matter alot ) notice i said wet shot not dry i had a 4 nozzel system with a separate fuel rail and a separate nitrous rail hence a nice nitrous system and the extra fuel to go with it . as far as spark the ob2 preludes you cant just turn the distributor for timing as you could on the gen 4 cars if your worried about that extra little power get from igniton advance get a decent ecu . no i wouldnt just get a 150 single nozzel dry shot and expect it to hold up no . but even with the right fuel air nitrous mix spray a 150 shot on stock pistons and see how far you make it . im just sayin
Lol Lol Ive seen ppl actually running a 150 shot on stock block and head with fuel management mods, retarding the timing....stuff like that. Ive NEVER seen somebody just sleeve the block with forged pistons and run a 150 shot. Im not trying to argue with u bro. Yes pistons do matter....I agree. But I personally think nitrous builds rely a little more on fuel and spark management than the pistons. U may disagree. Everybodys entitled to their own opinion. Dont take it personal bro
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not personal i just owned a 93 that i ran a 150 shot through for over a year and a half and at least 200 quarter mile passes ( then driving up to 150 miles to get home so it was very very reliable ) the car was tough as nails and i never had any engine management . just had two diff settings on my distributor . but like i said with the newer preludes ( gen 5 ) you cant get away with that . ive also had a turbo set up on the same chassis that just never wanted to play nice . im a mechanic by trade worked for a performance shop forever and the turbo was just a pita on a reg basis , always and oil leak or ignition issue just seemed like it was always something with the turbo set up and i had all top of the line part so it wasnt cheap parts just always something that needed tweaking then again i was at 19 psi so my set up was a little extreme for everyday street use . i just think back and the nitrous set up was so much easyer to maintain and you could just turn it off . if i was setting the car up to time attack id go turbo occasional quarter mile go with nitrous .............
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