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Blown Head Gasket?

Driving on the frreeway, and stop to get gas. As I was waiting, noticed some pretty dence white smoke coming out of the tailpipe. Shut the engine off, and checked the oil: COMPLETELY DRY!!

Picked up a few quarts of oil and as I was pouring them in, looked for any leaks under the car, there were none. I am completely comfused. Waited a little while to let the engine cool down and start her back up again, still with the white smoke. So now I'm thinking I might have a major issue.

I start checking all my fluids, take off the radiator cap and low and behold, there is a nice sheet of oil right in the cooling system. So I'm thinkin it's either a blown head gasket/warped head, or a cracked block..... I'm hopin it's the gasket....
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Re: Blown Head Gasket?

i've never heard of oil in the coolant from a blown head gasket. not trying to speculate here or say you're wrong. but it sounds like a more serious problem then just a blown head gasket.
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i've never heard of oil in the coolant from a blown head gasket. not trying to speculate here or say you're wrong. but it sounds like a more serious problem then just a blown head gasket.
Yeah, possible, but I sure do hope not! Did some googling and only things I could find were cracked block or a gasket, there was no water in the block itself.... so I dunno
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what i mean is, its very unlikely (virtually impossible) you're gonna drain nearly all your oil just from a blown head gasket.

i would definitely do a compression test. did the smoke have a bluish hue to it at all?
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what i mean is, its very unlikely (virtually impossible) you're gonna drain nearly all your oil just from a blown head gasket.

i would definitely do a compression test. did the smoke have a bluish hue to it at all?
Not that I remember seeing.....Drained the radiator, and deff a lot of oil in there, and no doubt more in the rest of the cooling system.
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Re: Blown Head Gasket?

It's a long shot, but I have heard of people (intellect omitted) pouring oil in just about any opening they can find. Is it possible that someone might have put oil in your coolant system? lol. White smoke is coolant burning and bluish smoke is oil. There's a good chance I'm way off though
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Re: Blown Head Gasket?

So oil is getting into the coolant, but no coolant is getting into the oil.... That's really weird. Usually you get both mixing with each other. Bad head gasket would be the best scenario. I'm thinking it's something block or head related though.

Any unusual conditions leading up to this?

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White smoke is coolant burning, black smoke is oil, and a bluish smoke is gas, IIRC. There's a good chance I'm way off though
Not quite. Black smoke is gas, and blueish is oil.

Not to be a smartass or anything...
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So oil is getting into the coolant, but no coolant is getting into the oil.... That's really weird. Usually you get both mixing with each other. Bad head gasket would be the best scenario. I'm thinking it's something block or head related though.

Any unusual conditions leading up to this?


Not quite. Black smoke is gas, and blueish is oil.

Not to be a smartass or anything...
FML! That's EXACTLY what I put at first. After a few Google results, I decided to edit it. Wow, Google fail. I did have it right originally
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So oil is getting into the coolant, but no coolant is getting into the oil.... That's really weird. Usually you get both mixing with each other. Bad head gasket would be the best scenario. I'm thinking it's something block or head related though.

Any unusual conditions leading up to this?


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The only things I did differently was, about 300miles before this whole issue, I changed the oil and put a synthetic-blend in, I think it was conventional oil before I changed it.
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Re: Blown Head Gasket?

well there is a great reason why there was no coolant in the oil... there was no oil for there to be any coolant in.

when you checked for leaks, did you have the engine running? have you ran the car much since and has the oil level dropped??
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Re: Blown Head Gasket?

There was no oil in the pan becasue it's all in his radiator lol.
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its a head gasket without a doubt . depends on where the gasket blows as to were the fluids go . could be a passage from the oil to the coolant ( the oil in the coolant ) and another passage from the blown gasket from the coolant jacket to the cyc ( the white smoke . if there is that much oil in your coolant and the jugs not overflowing the coolant is going somewhere . pull the head and go from there

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well there is a great reason why there was no coolant in the oil... there was no oil for there to be any coolant in.

when you checked for leaks, did you have the engine running? have you ran the car much since and has the oil level dropped??
Haven't ran it, straight up towed it back to my place to work on

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its a head gasket without a doubt . depends on where the gasket blows as to were the fluids go . could be a passage from the oil to the coolant ( the oil in the coolant ) and another passage from the blown gasket from the coolant jacket to the cyc ( the white smoke . if there is that much oil in your coolant and the jugs not overflowing the coolant is going somewhere . pull the head and go from there
Exactly my plan

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While trying to pull the head bolts (correct socket+2ft breaker bar) could tell that they were way over-torqued, so much that some of them even stripped before they even came loose.. . Ordered new head bolts and am picking up a bolt extractor kit from sears tomorrow........
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Re: Blown Head Gasket?

+1 on this
speaking from experience
grab my lude w/ this symptom mixing oil in the rad but sooner or later it will definitely find its way to your motor and that would be worst
OP what im saying is in your stage right now your not damaging the motor bc water is not going in ur motor and damaging ur bearings

i suggest you fix the headgasket b4 coolant finds its way to ur motor

ps i tried using this product "rislone headgasket fix $20" experimental reason
(my motor its mixing in both engine and cooling system FYI)
and it work im not saying it my work for u or its a longterm fix bc i only had it for a 2 weeks and i pulled the motor out . but it work it stop the mixing in the motor less white smoke but theres a little bit left of oil in the cooling system bc its hard to flush them all out .




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its a head gasket without a doubt . depends on where the gasket blows as to were the fluids go . could be a passage from the oil to the coolant ( the oil in the coolant ) and another passage from the blown gasket from the coolant jacket to the cyc ( the white smoke . if there is that much oil in your coolant and the jugs not overflowing the coolant is going somewhere . pull the head and go from there
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