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I have a H23 curently in my 92 si. i plan on going big on this car when i tune it up but Should i stick with an H23 or could i get more out of a h22 vtech?
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Re: H23 or H22?

You have basically just asked us "how long is a piece of string?"

How about some of your plans?
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Re: H23 or H22?

i have a vtech
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Re: H23 or H22?

rephrased.... which one could i get more power out of? im new to this btw. as far as plans go... i know i want it turbo chipped and all that great stuff but say you put the same parts and transmission on both.... which would be more powerful?
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Re: H23 or H22?

i say stay with the H23 more power with turbo and you wont waste all that money getting an h22 and parts for it
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Re: H23 or H22?

Hey Colin, I think you forgot to mention budget.










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i say stay with the H23 more power with turbo and you wont waste all that money getting an h22 and parts for it
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buying a full h22 swap is expensive, with that much $$ u can get some bad ass toys for ur h23
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Re: H23 or H22?

This is my doubts too ... and maybe that is the doubt of our friend ...
H23 vs H22 both with the same budget, which has better potential? How to be better than the H22 H23 .. How does the VTEC missing?
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i say stay with the H23 more power with turbo and you wont waste all that money getting an h22 and parts for it
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Re: H23 or H22?

yea...but theres nothing like having a vtec...
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H23 vs H22 both with the same budget, which has better potential? How to be better than the H22 H23 .. How does the VTEC missing?
Same budget, I'd go with the H22. For big numbers, you'll have to get any of the H blocks sleeved. Tuning might cost a little more, but VTEC + Boost = secks.
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Re: H23 or H22?

just my option but im the guy who also want to completly build up my motor but keep it naturally aspirated... no turbo, no nos, no supercharger..just all motor
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Re: H23 or H22?

Well in that case... H23 VTEC.
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exactly!
buying a full h22 swap is expensive, with that much $$ u can get some bad ass toys for ur h23
If you plan on going boost the engine is gonna have to be torn apart eventually to be sleeved, or for over sized bore, etc. If you're going big number the head will probly be cammed, valvesprings over sized valves, so the head is gonna need machine work. And honestly if you look around on craigslist or on forums you can pick up h22 blocks for cheap theres one in Texas H22a with pistons rods and crank for 200 dollars now thats a hell of a deal. Also you can easily pick up a head for 50-100 bucks with or without the cams (seeing as you will cam it eventually) . That right there is a H22a Long block for about 500 bucks and it doesnt have to be torn apart to build it is already in pieces. So to be honest if you have a good eye for parts on forums and craigslist either build can be "cheap". In the long run I think the H22 would be a more bang for your buck if you do it this way. Just keep the h23 in your Si for now and let people mess with you and smoke you, then build the h22 and drop it in and show em whats up. :P
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Another one of these threads... ugh...
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If you plan on going boost the engine is gonna have to be torn apart eventually to be sleeved, or for over sized bore, etc. If you're going big number the head will probly be cammed, valvesprings over sized valves, so the head is gonna need machine work. And honestly if you look around on craigslist or on forums you can pick up h22 blocks for cheap theres one in Texas H22a with pistons rods and crank for 200 dollars now thats a hell of a deal. Also you can easily pick up a head for 50-100 bucks with or without the cams (seeing as you will cam it eventually) . That right there is a H22a Long block for about 500 bucks and it doesnt have to be torn apart to build it is already in pieces. So to be honest if you have a good eye for parts on forums and craigslist either build can be "cheap". In the long run I think the H22 would be a more bang for your buck if you do it this way. Just keep the h23 in your Si for now and let people mess with you and smoke you, then build the h22 and drop it in and show em whats up. :P
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you dont always need to get h22' or h23' sleeved. there are people who get 350 hp out of an h22 without ripping out the bottum. Same for h23'. Ask twokelvexcoupe. He had a turbod h23 that put up spme good numbers and the motor was stock.
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you dont always need to get h22' or h23' sleeved. there are people who get 350 hp out of an h22 without ripping out the bottum. Same for h23'. Ask twokelvexcoupe. He had a turbod h23 that put up spme good numbers and the motor was stock.
thats beside the fact that you can piece together a h22 long block for 500 dollars or so whether you get it sleeved or not. I'm not trying to start an argument with anyone haha but you have to say sleeving your block is more safe then just a stock bottom end.
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Same budget, I'd go with the H22. For big numbers, you'll have to get any of the H blocks sleeved. Tuning might cost a little more, but VTEC + Boost = secks.
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Well in that case... H23 VTEC.
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Word, there is actually the JDM H23 VTEC, or you can make your own, which takes a lot of work and $$ to make reliable
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how do you like that s2000 throttle body??? big difference??
you can def feel a difference plus it makes a cool spooling type sound lol
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H22 vtech it shall be. im doing all this during winter and spring when my car is off the road. ill be asking more questions soon so keep an eye out for me. thanks!
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I would get the H23A VTEC (blue top) over the H22A all day. It has the same HP (220)and torque (163). Red line on the H23 is at 8000 RPM, over 7200 RPM on H22 and the price of H22 is around $2000-$4000 over $900-$1400 on the H23. So why spend so much money on the H22, just get the H23 and the extra $$$ use it to get the turbo.
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First of all, the bluetop makes more torque than an H22. Secondly, the bluetop has a lower redline than the H22. Third, if you would pay $2000+ for an H22, you're a ****ing moron. Please check your **** before you spread incorrect information.
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$2000 for H22a lol thats how much a 4th gen with an H22a should cost
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Re: H23 or H22?

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