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Old 06-19-2010, 01:40 PM
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BAD bogging/stuttering

Ok so ive been on here before with this problem of not so violent bogging, then my cel would come on and everythings all fine and dandy. Well after winter passed and it got warmer the bogging stopped all together. Well after having it in the shop for a few days (ball joint and control arm replacement and alignment) I was driving it and out of no where it started to bog and stutter VERY badly in any gear it'll do this. And sometimes when in first if i dont rev it up before letting the clutch out itll bog and stall unless i hit the gas and hold it down. Could this be fuel pump going bad? Relay? anything you guys think of please let me know! Also no cel for it?
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Old 06-19-2010, 04:33 PM
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

kinda sounds like a coil to me. I try that first also a tune up wouldn't hurt ( cap, rotor, plugs, plug wires, and fuel filter. )
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Sounds like an O2 sensor to me, the primary. This could be "limp mode" as its called. The primary O2 sensor controls the Air/fuel mixture of the engine, and when it goes out or is on its way out, the car just floods the engine so that it doesn't run rich, when the sensor does transmit, the car will cut fuel cause its too rich and itll bog and stutter kinda like you're saying. The cold air will cause a denser air requiring more fuel, which will cause this to happen more often.

Although this comes with a code, usually p0130 iirc. But sometimes it doesn't come up right away.
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Wouldn't an o2 sensor code come up as a P04XX? Emissions related codes are the 400 series, unless its throwing up an engine code for the rich condition.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

For some reason, o2 sensors fall under the P01xx series. I looked it up, and they range from P0131-P0134 for the first sensor on OBD-II cars.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Alright ya ill have to get her tuned up. But i dont know if this would help further more but when it does stutter and bog and i hold the gas pedal where its at and when all of the sudden the power comes back it shoots forward like it was being held back.
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Yeah, that sounds pretty much like an O2 sensor. Same thing happened to me a few months ago
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Werd.

The primaries throw 100 series codes? Wierd man. I once had a code get thrown up for my secondary, 400 series code. Wierd that the primary and secondary would be different series of codes.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Air and fuel management codes fall between P0100 and P0199. The secondary codes are like P0135-P0139 I think...
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

The secondary o2 sensor? Nah, they're 400 series.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Alright well i put new plugs in yesterday. And today i went over to a shop that i went to for the ball joints bc he specializes in foreign cars. Well he said he thinks its the distributor going bad. What is your guys input on this before i make the purchase?
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

I'm having the same issues and i replaced plugs wires dist. idle air control valve. fast idle thermo. and tomorrow Im going to just flush the coolant and fill her back up and bleed it. Hope it does the trick. I have no o2 sensor hooked up so maybe i will do that tomorrow to but the problem just started and the o2 hasnt been hooked up for months due to the wires mia. Let me know if you find a fix. please pm me then. and I will like wise.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Alright yeah i will do, thanks man this craps really bothering me
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Alright so i just got my car back from the shop..AGAIN..now with a new distributor. Driving was pretty good, for a while, then it started to hesitate ever so slightly and it went away, it did this a couple times no CEL or anything and not nearly as violent as before. So what do you guys think i should try replacing next? As the guy above me posted he replaced a couple different things, none helping, im lostttttt and angry
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

So replaced the o2 this morning wired it up still the same thing but it is only when I'm very light on the gas like pulling out trying to cruise at the same speed. Also flushed my coolant system. I noticed if I rev it to around 2k it does it almost like idle surge. I don't know anymore I'm trying to throw everything out there maybe some guys will give us more ideas.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Might wanna try doing some of the idle problem stuff. Cleaning out the IAC and readjusting the FITV and cleaning out your TPS.

and if it doesn't help, then atleast you got some stuff outta the way.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Yeah same here, it seems at lower constant rpms it starts to stutter and hesitate and you can't really accelerate, then if i let off the gas then hit it again it seems to go away This is really starting to bug the sh!t out of me haha
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Try Adjusting the timing and you'll get It then.
Mine 4th. Gen was bogging bad, and I fixed the timing on it.
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hmm that could be my next attempt. would make sense. thank you
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

so i just adjusted it today from my cap. so i beleive it is my timing. I retarded it a little and bogging is pretty much gone. I lack power but atleast now i can drive it till i have a couple days off to do the timing belt and everything else that goes along with it.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

Yeah my 4th gen was bogging really bad, I bought seafoam. I thought that the fuel injectors were bad and I did that kinda help. But then my friend started to miss with the timing and he got the air of it. And it clear out the bogging. Now it drives like totally different , hella lot faster now.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

alright, well as im still kinda new to working on my car, could anyone explain to me with pictures and details on how to adjust said timing the way you guys are talking about?
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Just play with the throttle , and move the timing and you'll get it.
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was this the solution cuz my lude started to do this today
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

MY h22a1 does this too, but just went in the shop from something else, car wouldnt crank, when it did idle would sputter had and die umless i revved it to over 2500, if i let off it dies.
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Re: BAD bogging/stuttering

I found my problem. My spark plug broke inside my my motor so I'm guessing its still stiing on top of the piston head. I hope
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