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Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

I know people on here have some Nokya bulbs in their Lude's..
I was thinking about getting the 55w 2,500k Nokya bulbs for my regular driving lights.. However, i have seen some questioning about their longevity.. can anyone vouch for the reliability of the bulbs?
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

Since your car is black on black, it wud look hotta wit Bright White HID's, or blue HID's wit yellow highbeams. (thats how i got it) it looks OD hott! (unless u alreadi got yellow fogs)... Eagle Eye HID's are very good, havent failed me yet, and i had them alil over a year.
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

I think im gonna go with the 2,500k Hyper Yellow high beams, and the 6,000k Diamond White low beams.
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

Oh boy, another "putting HIDeeez in my stock headlights, yo!" thread. When will people learn?

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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

if it helps i always drive with my highbeams on cause im MOTHAAAFUKKIN HOOD
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

To Phantom : When will people learn what? I'm pretty sure you don't need "aftermarket" headlights to have HID's. besides, it's my car, i'll do what i like to it, and you can do what you like to your car. How's that sound?
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

you wont find 2500k HID kit. its just the bulb you can get
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

Yeah, i know.
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

Oh and Phantom.. Please don't talk down on me when you have 81 posts on this site.
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Oh and Phantom.. Please don't talk down on me when you have 81 posts on this site.
Oh, I'm sorry. Did I offend you? Because someone who is new to the site has better sense than someone who is obviously a veteran?

Apparently, you just don't get it. Let me break it down for you.

Your factory headlights (as well as aftermarket options) were designed to be used with Halogen bulbs. Halogen bulbs (in case you didn't know) produce light via a filament, which electricity is applied to. Due to the resistance and flow of current through such a fine wire, the wire heats up and begins producing light as a result. The HID kits that people install are vastly different from a Halogen headlamp. Metal Halide lamps (HIDs) produce light via a high voltage plasma arc through a mixture of gases.

The difference between Halogen headlamp housings and HID headlamp housings are quite different. Halogen headlamps are designed to give of so much stray light to illuminate signs and make one's vehicle more visible, due to it's low lumen output. HID headlamp housings are designed to produce much less glare because the HID capsules produce roughly twice the amount of lumens as their Halogen counterparts. To have the same headlamp housing as a Halogen headlamp would result in much more glare, and less light being put where it is needed.

Next, rebased HID "kits" are typically of poor design, either because of lack of build quality, or inability to correctly place the light source of the HID capsule at the focal point of the headlight's reflector (or projector in some cases). This causes even more glare, and improper dispersing of light. Improper beam patterns are absolutely worthless.

If you're really bent on using items that aren't designed for your car, why don't you go ahead and fill your tank with diesel while you're at it? Or wash your car with sandpaper? Why not?


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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

phantom does have a point, and even though he has a low post count, the posts that he does make are very often quite informative and correct.

Although he did get one thing wrong. HID stands for High Intensity Discharge, not Metal Halide lol
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

i wash my car with sand paper because im that muthafuqqin hardcore.
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

Yes Phantom, you are obviously a veteran, since HID doesn't stand for "Metal Halide". Also, while you are rambling on and on about something that you looked up on wikipedia, I'm not too sure that I'm gonna be down on my headlights with a microscope or magnifying glass trying to spot this "glare" that you talk about. I've had HID's in stock halogen housings before and my HID's were actually very bright. Nonetheless, not a single person ever came up to me and told me that the "glare" was horrible. Thank you for taking your time to research common knowledge about halogen and "Metal Halide" bulbs.
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

By the way, I'm not trying to be a douche, but i was simply asking for some input, instead of being flamed for a simple question.
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phantom does have a point, and even though he has a low post count, the posts that he does make are very often quite informative and correct.

Although he did get one thing wrong. HID stands for High Intensity Discharge, not Metal Halide lol
Actually, Metal Halide is the type of HID used in automotive headlamps. Mercury Vapor and low pressure Sodium are two other types of HID lamps... but specifically Metal Halide is the specific type. "HID" is a broad term.

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Yes Phantom, you are obviously a veteran, since HID doesn't stand for "Metal Halide". Also, while you are rambling on and on about something that you looked up on wikipedia, I'm not too sure that I'm gonna be down on my headlights with a microscope or magnifying glass trying to spot this "glare" that you talk about. I've had HID's in stock halogen housings before and my HID's were actually very bright. Nonetheless, not a single person ever came up to me and told me that the "glare" was horrible. Thank you for taking your time to research common knowledge about halogen and "Metal Halide" bulbs.
Herp derp, let me just point out one thing wrong. Oh wait, Metal Halide isn't wrong at all, it's just a specific term for the type of HID lamp used in cars.

You don't have to use a microscope to spot the glare, jerkoff. Have you ever been blinded by some jackass with HIDs in his Halogen housings? Yeah? That's called glare, smart guy. See, the way lights are supposed to work, the light emitted from the bulb is directed toward the road, not the faces of oncoming traffic.

Of course nobody is gonna tell you that the "glare was horrible" because either 1) they don't care, 2) they, too, are a tool 3) don't know any better or 4) think that it's "mad tyte, yo".

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By the way, I'm not trying to be a douche, but i was simply asking for some input, instead of being flamed for a simple question.
Oh, so sorry to offend. Really. I send my most sincere apologies... but in the future, you might want to invest in one of these

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Actually, Metal Halide is the type of HID used in automotive headlamps. Mercury Vapor and low pressure Sodium are two other types of HID lamps... but specifically Metal Halide is the specific type. "HID" is a broad term.
Yes I know lol, I was splitting hairs on that one

Actually after I said it I went to go double check, because I could have swore I have heard them being called "halide" before.

But like I said HID itself stands for High Intensity Discharge, but you aren't wrong with calling them metal halide. People do call them by the gas used in the arc tube, which is why people call them "Xenons."


Jesus...we have degraded to arguing semantics of an acronym.

I really have to keep that particular part of my brain filter ON





Anyway, I have seen HIDs with the actual full HID assembly including lens, and the ones with just the bulb. The ones with just the bulb do give off a nice glare with will blind oncoming drivers and people you drive behind. It's really annoying and doesn't look nearly as good as stock HIDs or properly done ones. They're much more crisp and sharp.


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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

New member here already regretting the jdm headlight install. The light output just doesn't compare to the usdm assemblies. That said I stumbled upon another alternative; HIR bulbs that reflect infrared light back onto the filament to create more heat resulting in greater light output. The Subaru and BMW crowds swear by them. Too bad Id be spending more on the bulbs than the headlghts themselves. Still cheaper than a good HID kit though.
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Why not just throw some halogens in them? If they're incandescents and they're yellow, you prolly won't see much of an improvement. Throw some halogens in there, and they'll prolly be nice and bright.
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You read through that entire thread, and all you got was "herp derp?" lol
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You read through that entire thread, and all you got was "herp derp?" lol
Haha, actually yes. It was the first time I saw this thread and that is the only thing I wanted to reply to.

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Why not just throw some halogens in them? If they're incandescents and they're yellow, you prolly won't see much of an improvement. Throw some halogens in there, and they'll prolly be nice and bright.
I don't think it's the brightness he is concerned about, as much as the fact that the headlights are designed for a RHD car rather than a LHD car. It's throwing the most concentrated parts of the beam on the wrong side of the road.

Also, yellow is just fine. In fact, the more blue you get (higher color temperature, I.E. 8000k, 10000k, 12000k) with your HID kit, the less lumens are produced. In fact (if memory serves correct), your typical 8000k (or maybe it was 10000k) HID capsule produces only 30% more raw lumens than it's Halogen counterpart. Add in that you're putting this in the wrong housing (and therefore don't have a proper beam pattern), and you have a recipe for disaster.

Additionally, the bluer the HID kit you get, the less usable light you're actually making.... from a visual standpoint that is. The reason for this is because our eyes can't process blue and violet wavelengths as well as it can process others such as red and yellow. In fact, this trend is true for the entire visible color spectrum, in an ascending fashion; with red being most easily processed, to violet being the most difficult to process.

But what does this mean to you?

What it means is that the light you're putting on the ground is on the high end of the color spectrum, which is hard for our eyes to process. This light reflects off of the surfaces in front of you, your eyes take in the info, and your brain tries to make sense of it. With normal halogens, you're producing a light which is much more suited for your eyes to focus. This is also why OEM HIDs are 4100k-4300k color temperature; the closest to the color temperature of sunlight.
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I do think aiming could help me and I will continue to run this setup for a while. If it's still not bright enough Ill switch back to the USDM after some modification. This kid was 16 and broke but with some oem black border corners I think it could look really nice.
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That and Im actually running one JDM black housing and one 2 part EDM. My wiring was already hacked up and I spent the majority of he time restoring the factory harness using the H4 sockets. There are H4 HIR bulbs available but again the cost is a factor. I'm running 'matching' headlights in look only for a reason. It was a bargain. New H4 and H1 HIR bulbs would be close to a hundred.

Here's an old writeup with some great info concerning color spectrum and bulb output:
The Ultimate Bulb Lighting Thread: All You Ever Need to Know About Bulbs - NASIOC

What brand bulbs are you guys running? If you're a 4th gen with the Jdm setup are you running both filaments in the h4?
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

haha this site makes me laugh...

any way good info about hids but the original question had nothing to do with hids and none of u answer the OP's question...

how reliable are the 2500 k halogen bulbs and will they melt the housing???
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As long as you're not increasing wattage, you're fine. The color temperature has nothing to do with actual heat.
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Re: Headlight bulbs on the Prelude.

Pretty sure halogens make less heat, and like phantom said, same wattage and you'll be fine.

And its very possible I didn't fully understand the PBBB1's fog question, and I think I answered it very tiredly. So just read what phantom said lol.
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yea i already knew all about hids and glare and so on but arent the nokyas like 80-100 watts??? thats y i was conserned about melting because hids are only 35 and 55watts...
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The Nokyas shouldn't be 80-100w. They might say they're "equal to" 80-100w, though. Check with whoever you're getting them from.
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