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Old 06-09-2010, 09:27 AM
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No Steering.

So basically what happened was i was driving my car and I could feel the steering wheel skipping. Like I would turn and it would skip once then continue as normal. So as i was making a right turn it skipped and then you hear something go snap or break or something like that and then I had no steering what so ever. I literally can turn the steering wheel all the way around each way over and over again. As it span round once or twice i hear something else break and my srs light turn on. I'm pretty sure the steering shaft from the steering wheel to the fire wall broke some how. But I am not sure what else could of broke for the srs light to come on. Any Idea's to both as I am going to try and fix this on friday.


p.s and I am so thankful that this happend as I was making a turn doing like less then 10 km/h If i had been on the highway or something or trying to hit vtec and that happend I would of been boned if i tried to use the breaks and slow down as the car would of went it;s own way instead of me controling it. This defiantly could of been alot worse.
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Old 06-09-2010, 10:00 AM
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Re: No Steering.

I think the srs light went off because I think the srs wires run through the clock spring on your steering shaft. Actually I'm almost certain they do. Clock springs do wear out over time, but I don't think that would cause loss of steering, you would just lose any electrical devices that have switches on your steering wheel or column. Of course that really doesn't explain complete loss of steering though. Could be your gearbox or R+P, if 4th gens even have a R+P, which I'm sure they do.

Or you just broke your steering column, hell if I know how you did that though...
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Re: No Steering.

Okay first your lucky that your alive ,and no one got hurt.The first thing you need to do is to put the car up on jack stands,disconnect the battery, look at the rack where the steering shaft connects, it has two small universal joint with locking bolt that secures the steering shaft from coming out ,the other thing could have been wear on the steering shaft gear and that is not likely to happen , the reason the srs light when is because by turn the wheel full circle you might have damage the clock spring which has a wire harness that connects to air bag and horn.Hope the ideas me and havikprelude gave you are helpful .Later Keep up dates.
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Re: No Steering.

And for god's sake, after disconnecting the battery PLEASE undo the wire harness for the airbag in the steering wheel. A simple spark of reconnecting the clock spring could now set it off.
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Re: No Steering.

take the steering column shaft cover off that is under the dash to check the condition of that too
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And for god's sake, after disconnecting the battery PLEASE undo the wire harness for the airbag in the steering wheel. A simple spark of reconnecting the clock spring could now set it off.
Please pay attention to this. Airbags are not to be ****ed with. Airbag wires are always the big yellow ones. If at all possible find a wiring diagram or car manual that tells you how to safely disable the SRS system. You do not want them going off while you're working on the car.
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Re: No Steering.

Well my buddy has been looking at it and he said that the shaft is still moving but its not turning the rack. He thinks that the spline part that goes into the steering box has stripped and I just need to replace the shaft. I'm sure there is more to it but it was a quick convo on the phone I actually have the day off tomorrow so that is when I will be fixing it I'll keep everyone updated on the situation. Also thanks for the advice on the airbags and what not when I hit up the junkyard tomorrow I will just grab a new clock spring. Shouldn't be top hard to change I hope lol
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Re: No Steering.

Alright so I fixed the problem. The problem was one of the bolts let go that hold the steering joint in place. Which explains alot because my steering was a tad sloppy for the last few months before this. So once the bolt let go as i was steering it skipped and stripped the crap out of the spline in the steering joint. I replaced it and now its better then ever. But let me tell you it was such a pain in the ass. Because the one bolt let go and stripped it self it was really really hard to get out. something that should of took 5 mins took like an hour and half.
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Alright so I fixed the problem. The problem was one of the bolts let go that hold the steering joint in place. Which explains alot because my steering was a tad sloppy for the last few months before this. So once the bolt let go as i was steering it skipped and stripped the crap out of the spline in the steering joint. I replaced it and now its better then ever. But let me tell you it was such a pain in the ass. Because the one bolt let go and stripped it self it was really really hard to get out. something that should of took 5 mins took like an hour and half.
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Re: No Steering.

How do you gain access to the steering joint? was it from the inside of the car or on the outside? I'm having trouble figuring this last piece out as I've already taken off the steering wheel and all the covers.

Edit ** If anyone out there is wondering how to gain access to the steering joint in a 4th gen prelude you have to access the steering joint from the outside **

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Re: No Steering.

If you want access to it you can either a) look down past the break fluid reservoir or b) you can jack up the front end of the car and gain access to it under neath the car. which will probably be more easy if the engine is still in the car. Trying to get at it from the top is hard because it is a tight space.
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