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Gas Type Help

Hey guys I have a 95 Prelude SE that I purchased recently.
On the dash it says premium unleaded only, but the guy i bought it from said it ran better on 89 octane.
So I put some 89 in today but in 1st and 2nd gear, and even higher gears, the car jerks and hesitates while im accelerating.
Is this because of the 89 octane im putting in?
Or is it something else?
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:42 AM
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Re: Gas Type Help

yeah bro that dude played you. only put premium in there. unless there is some kind of gas crysis go with the gold. next time u see him u know what to do...
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Re: Gas Type Help

Yeah, that guy is a ****ing moron. H23's and H22's require Premium Unleaded (91+ I believe). That's REQUIRED, not recommended. Unless you like knocking and ****ty performance.
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uhh plz slap guy next time you see him...
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Re: Gas Type Help

damn.
well thanks guys!
so should i jus add like an octane booster or something?
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Re: Gas Type Help

No. Just go to the pump, and instead of regular ask for premium. Its usually 91 or 93 octane. Thats all. Nothing special.

Don't be cheap, our cars really don't guzzle all that much gas. Gas octanes for cars should be treated the same way motor oil is. You get what is needed for the car. H22's and H23's are high compression engines, and low octane gas (regular/87 or plus/89) will cause detonation, fouling, engine sludge buildup, and cracked out T-rexs to eat you.

You don't need octane boost. You don't need octane pills. You don't need snapple apple. You just need premium/hi-test/super/93/the good stuff - type gas. Its available at the pump at pretty much every gas station in america.

Although snapple apple is friggin amazing.
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Re: Gas Type Help

On my lude 2.2 Vtec 93year ...
500 km on 95+ ( EU standart ) - bad start, knocking, low power , bigger KPL (km per liter) 13.5l/100km
500 km on 100 octane ( EU standart ) - better start, no knocking, bigger power , lower KPL (km per liter) 10l/100km
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Re: Gas Type Help

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Hey guys I have a 95 Prelude SE that I purchased recently.
On the dash it says premium unleaded only, but the guy i bought it from said it ran better on 89 octane.
So I put some 89 in today but in 1st and 2nd gear, and even higher gears, the car jerks and hesitates while im accelerating.
Is this because of the 89 octane im putting in?
Or is it something else?
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On my lude 2.2 Vtec 93year ...
500 km on 95+ ( EU standart ) - bad start, knocking, low power , bigger KPL (km per liter) 13.5l/100km
500 km on 100 octane ( EU standart ) - better start, no knocking, bigger power , lower KPL (km per liter) 10l/100km
you lost me when you started throwing out liters and kilometers.
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you lost me when you started throwing out liters and kilometers.
Hehehe sorry mate , like I said ... EU standard. Don't ask me how difficult for me is to convert MPG to KPL

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Re: Gas Type Help

Ive got a F22b engine, says premuim only on the gas cap, it is a SR but Im assuming the h22 died and he swaped in a f22b(boost? lol), I have been putting in 91 in only, but does the f22 really need 91?
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Re: Gas Type Help

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Ive got a F22b engine, says premuim only on the gas cap, it is a SR but Im assuming the h22 died and he swaped in a f22b(boost? lol), I have been putting in 91 in only, but does the f22 really need 91?
Assuming that your talking about the DOHC jdm f22b because you did not put a number after the letter yes it does call for premium as well. If you have the f22b2 then i would just put 87 or 89 it's just a single cam accord motor, and i don't think the compression is that high.
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Re: Gas Type Help

Yes, put premium in it. Run better and get better MPG's.

I guess 9.x:1 is considered high on these little motors?
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Re: Gas Type Help

Chances are when you start using premium it will not get rid of the hesitation. Prolonged use of lower quality gas can really take it's toll on these engines.
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Re: Gas Type Help

I think i woulda listened to the dash board over the dumbass that sold you the car because the dash board speaks for itself, hope all goes well.
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Re: Gas Type Help

Alright thanks guys.
Ill definitely be putting premium from now on.
But my question now is what should I do?
I already put 89 octane in yesterday.
But only about 1/3 full.
So what should I do?
Thanks again.
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Re: Gas Type Help

For now add 1 to 2 things of octane boost. Whoever said not to do that meant not to get 89 every time then use it. But honestly what is one more tank of 89 going to do to hurt the car if the guy has been using it as long as he has had the car?
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For now add 1 to 2 things of octane boost. Whoever said not to do that meant not to get 89 every time then use it. But honestly what is one more tank of 89 going to do to hurt the car if the guy has been using it as long as he has had the car?
Yea thats what i thought he meant.
But thanks for clearing that up for me man.
Ill head to autozone right now to do that.
Any specific type of octane boost i should get?

And when i bought it the guys said he hadnt driven it regularly for about 3 yrs.
But i mean it runs like a beast. Nothing is wrong with it really, except for the check engine light being on due to the EGR needing to be cleaned i think.
other than that, she's pretty much in perfect running condition. looks great too.
Thanks again!

Thanks to everyone else who has replied!
I definitely learned my lesson! haha
Honestly, I learn more on this forum than by doing research on the net.
I much prefer jus asking questions here and waiting for the replies.
Its much more straight forward and realistic since you guys actually drive the cars you give tips on.
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Re: Gas Type Help

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On my lude 2.2 Vtec 93year ...
500 km on 95+ ( EU standart ) - bad start, knocking, low power , bigger KPL (km per liter) 13.5l/100km
500 km on 100 octane ( EU standart ) - better start, no knocking, bigger power , lower KPL (km per liter) 10l/100km
Higher octane should give you better gas mileage... I don't think thats right there. I noticed a significant difference from the 93 I put in regularly when I put 100 octane in from a bigger city... Both in performance and mileage.
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Alright so I went to autozone and talked to a specialist and he said to jus burn out the 89 and when i refill with the correct gas to add in a bottle of Lucas injector cleaner.
He also said to change my fuel filter and spark plugs.
And of course i still need to clean out the EGR, which i hope will clear the CEL code. HOPEFULLY! lol

Oh and he also said that i should be fine running 89 octane every time for some reason but i think thats jus because it didnt hit him that h23a's take premium so dont worry guys im still sticking to premium from now on.
But the other advice he gave me im definitely gonna follow thru with.

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Re: Gas Type Help

You are on a forum dedicated to preludes. Autozone works on everything. Take our advice, for the safety of your car. Please.

He was right about the injector cleaner though, fill up with 93 or higher, throw a bottle of that in there, and runn it till you are pretty much runnin on fumes. The EGR valve is easy to clean, buy some carb/brake cleaner, take off the hose, two nuts, and just spray tha bish. I used an old toothbrush to really get in there and get it out, just remember, you will need a new gasket for it. Fuel filter is an easy change, I just did a write up on it actually in the DIY section, and the plugs, make sure they're NGK :-)
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yea for sure man.
I knew once he said i would just become a slave to buying higher octane, that i would put premium in anyways. haha
but yea his other advice seemed like quality advice.
and with you reinforcing it then I'll definitely be making those changes.
He said to add the injector cleaner on 2 consecutive fill ups jus to get it real clean. So im gonna do that.
And yea i watched the DIY on the EGR clean so ill probably do that sometime this week.
Can you link me to the fuel filter change?

I know this is gonna sound so noob, but how many plugs am i going to need to change?
Thanks for your help man!

1 spark plug per cylinder right??

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Re: Gas Type Help

damn that sucks i always thought only comp 10 and over needed 91 or higher. ive always used 87 thinkin it was good. thank u guy for askin this question i never even really took it into consideration. ill b switchin to premium next fill up, 2 bad i have half a tank. is there any parts we can switch out to restore performance, ive been wantin to replace jst my piston rings for now since i dnt have much money. u guys think that would help or what should i replace. hey by the way sry guy dident wanna tread jack bt im sure ur prob curious bout this 2. i know i wanna get the max performance outta my lude. i love my torque monster best honda car ever made.
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