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Icon5 what is a ecu chip

ok i know this much that chipping a ecu is not putting a patato chip in your ecu lol. My question is how or where and what is the cheapest way to get ecu chipped can i do it myself?
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Re: what is a ecu chip

you can buy chips online, this mod should be towards one of the last things you do when your done with your build. and will have to be professionaly be installed.

this goes either way some people say theres a differents and some think there isnt.
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Re: what is a ecu chip

chips for ecus are basically things to just re program the stock ecu to allow changes to the firmware via some software ( plugging in a laptop to change the amount of fuel delivered, timing, etc )

the ecus that came with preludes are not chippable, if you are going to get one, a p28 will do, just dont run that ecu until it has a basemap on it
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Re: what is a ecu chip

just go to phearable.net and order a chipped p28 ecu it comes tuned and its great and about 200$
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Re: what is a ecu chip

What's a basemap, and do you need a chip to have the ecu itself tuned?
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just go to phearable.net and order a chipped p28 ecu it comes tuned and its great and about 200$
I looked it up, and i still dont understand the parameter sht.
I'm looking to boost it low. http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...vtec-p-31.html

thats the one i need?
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Re: what is a ecu chip

sumone correct me if im wrong. but a chipped ecu that you buy online isnt the best method, but if your low on cash then yes it is.

chipped ecu is already cihpped from somebody else's car (prelude), with their mods. lets say that prelude has header intake exhaust, and u have header, intake, exhaust, then you buy that cihp, but that chip is not the best for your car cuz every car is pretty much different.

best method is to buy a chippable ecu (p28?), and then get it tuned professionally by a tuner. so that chippable ecu that you just bought is now tuned to YOUR specific car with YOUR specific mods. this is the best way to go, but it costs a lot. im in canada and to get my ecu tuned is 450 dollars
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just go to phearable.net and order a chipped p28 ecu it comes tuned and its great and about 200$
yes but that still only gets you a basemap

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What's a basemap, and do you need a chip to have the ecu itself tuned?
a basemap is a a baseline map of both the fuel and timing parameters. its a rough guess really of what the engine needs. but it no way is a full tune, and really shouldnt be used except for to get you to a tuner to get a full on street or dyno tune done.

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I'm looking to boost it low. http://www.phearable.net/shoppingcar...vtec-p-31.html

thats the one i need?
yes thats the one you would need, just fill in the blanks as best you can(specially in the area where is asks what aftermarket parts you have on). if you dont know it, or you didnt upgrade/replace it just put stock.

btw you know the tune that will come with that is only a basemap, so should only really be used to drive to a tuner to have a full tune done. also if you have a tuner already in mind, you might wanna talk to him, he should be able to hook you up with a ecu and basemap

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sumone correct me if im wrong. but a chipped ecu that you buy online isnt the best method, but if your low on cash then yes it is.

chipped ecu is already cihpped from somebody else's car (prelude), with their mods. lets say that prelude has header intake exhaust, and u have header, intake, exhaust, then you buy that cihp, but that chip is not the best for your car cuz every car is pretty much different.

best method is to buy a chippable ecu (p28?), and then get it tuned professionally by a tuner. so that chippable ecu that you just bought is now tuned to YOUR specific car with YOUR specific mods. this is the best way to go, but it costs a lot. im in canada and to get my ecu tuned is 450 dollars
true true, although theres nothing wrong with buyin a chipped/tuned ecu from someone as long as you have it re-tuned for your set up. its too easy to pull the chip out and reflash it with a new tune.

kind of like what you were getting at, even if you have exactly the same mods as the other guy with exactly the same engine, your still going to need a slightly different tune. every engine is different, as minimal as it may be, each one is different in its own way.
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yes but that still only gets you a basemap


a basemap is a a baseline map of both the fuel and timing parameters. its a rough guess really of what the engine needs. but it no way is a full tune, and really shouldnt be used except for to get you to a tuner to get a full on street or dyno tune done.


yes thats the one you would need, just fill in the blanks as best you can(specially in the area where is asks what aftermarket parts you have on). if you dont know it, or you didnt upgrade/replace it just put stock.

btw you know the tune that will come with that is only a basemap, so should only really be used to drive to a tuner to have a full tune done. also if you have a tuner already in mind, you might wanna talk to him, he should be able to hook you up with a ecu and basemap


true true, although theres nothing wrong with buyin a chipped/tuned ecu from someone as long as you have it re-tuned for your set up. its too easy to pull the chip out and reflash it with a new tune.

kind of like what you were getting at, even if you have exactly the same mods as the other guy with exactly the same engine, your still going to need a slightly different tune. every engine is different, as minimal as it may be, each one is different in its own way.
ok, now im getting way to confused and noobed,
so the 175 dollar thing is only a basemap? not an ecu?
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ok, now im getting way to confused and noobed,
so the 175 dollar thing is only a basemap? not an ecu?
in that case its a chipped ecu with a basemap on it.
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in that case its a chipped ecu with a basemap on it.
thanks bro, because i just need an ecu, fuel injectors, and a better boost controller, and ill be boosted in about a month :D!
I just want to get everything right the first time, ._. is your car boosted?
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nah i'm a na guy. well atleast on my lude anyways.

what injectors you gonna run?
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Re: what is a ecu chip

well, im not running high boost, only like 6-8 lbs, so im looking at 450cc dsm injectors.
is it better to buy a new ecu, or tune your stock one?
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Re: what is a ecu chip

in your case, new ecu.
only way you can "tune" your stock ecu is with a piggyback. but me, i would never run a piggyback with boost.

i would look at the acura rdx injectors. better spray pattern then the dsm's.
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acura dx?

i found these,
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but Im just short on cash ._., the dsm sht is cheaper than acura.
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Re: what is a ecu chip

yup any acura rdx, ya the are 450cc, and have about the best spray pattern out there. atleast better the most any oem injectors and even some aftermarket injectors as well

should be able to get them brand new for like 70bucks each
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lol ill consider it, so i can just pop the ecu in with out problem?
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lol ill consider it, so i can just pop the ecu in with out problem?
ya i go for it on those. thats a hell of a deal

and yes as long as its running atleast a basemap for your setup.
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ok 2 questions.

My friend just asked me if they are bolt on? how to DIY fuel injectors? i would love to know how they work to put on, so I know im getting the right ones,

the ECU, will i run into any problems when installing it?

sorry for the annoyance. Just wanting not to blow my money on it.
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wow all this is really helpful ok so correct me if i am wrong i can buy a chipped ecu for 150-500 bucks and it has a basemap loaded on to it. (wich is stock im guessing right?) Or i can run my stock ecu not sure what it is called for a 94 prelude s with a piggyback or sfac/safc.
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ok 2 questions.

My friend just asked me if they are bolt on? how to DIY fuel injectors? i would love to know how they work to put on, so I know im getting the right ones,

the ECU, will i run into any problems when installing it?

sorry for the annoyance. Just wanting not to blow my money on it.
ecu = plug and play basically

and as far as the injectors, i'm not to sure never used dsm injectors myself. might wanna get a hold of blake (98vtec)
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i have dsm 450cc injectors they work excellent they are the best bang for your buck for the low boost turbo applicaion!
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rebel luder help me lol ok so heres my situation i wanna run 7lbs of boost on my stock f22a1 but heres the kicker i looked at pherable ecu's and was gonna buy a chipped ecu for my car but it says for h and b series motors for preludes. And problem 2 i have is i wanna play now but in the near futer i am turning my f22a1 into a g23 so i dunno what to do for an ecu then? so i guess im gonna run a piggy back and pray for sucsess :(
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Re: what is a ecu chip

soonboosted, rebel said it aint good for piggybacks and turbos o.o, thats what i asked about just tuning the stock ecu.
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Re: what is a ecu chip

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rebel luder help me lol ok so heres my situation i wanna run 7lbs of boost on my stock f22a1 but heres the kicker i looked at pherable ecu's and was gonna buy a chipped ecu for my car but it says for h and b series motors for preludes. And problem 2 i have is i wanna play now but in the near futer i am turning my f22a1 into a g23 so i dunno what to do for an ecu then? so i guess im gonna run a piggy back and pray for sucsess :(
just pick up a chipped p28 and have it tuned. you realize though with any map that would come from pherable its only a basemap. you still need to find a tuner and have it dyno or street tuned.

honestly with your plans and all, i would find a tuner in your area that you like, and have him hook you up with a ecu/basemap/tune. thats what i'm doin right now with my lude. had a basemap put on while i was home on leave back in december. and now once i come home here in june i;m having a full dyno tune done.

really about the only reason i would run a piggy back is if your worried about emission's. in which case i;d either run the apexi neo(if your n.a) or the greddy emanage(if your built n/a or boosted). thats just me though.

but if your not worried bout emission, then stand alone ems all the way(so new ecu)
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Re: what is a ecu chip

Took the original ECU of the lude and found out that the E12 is not chippeable, my friend connected an ECU of an Integra to see if it works and found out that it does, just need a little tuning, but right away rpms rised to 8.000.

Now i'm looking for a new ECU to replace mine and tune it, cool,



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