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Ebay: tie bar...

worth it...or save???

Honda Prelude 92-96 Front Rear Up Strut + Lower Tie Bar : eBay Motors (item 160422878672 end time Apr-16-10 16:58:14 PDT)
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

worth it, but it all depend on the look your going for, i got a corbon fiber upper front off ebay and a megan raceing rear , really cheap, and they are all high quality and worth more than i paid, i guess the cost is lower without the overhead of a store, just make sure they have good rep and high star's and if poss a top rated seller, but i have had nothing but good from all i got off ebay witch is everything almost..
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

its worth it if your going for looks, but if your going for functionality forget it, they wont really help at all. of course the price looks pleasing compared to 300+ minimum for those 3 pieces made from a good company.. so its up to you. dont expect the, to really do anything handling wise..
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it, doesnt matter if it's a millon dollar bar that you get they will all do the same thing unless you get the lower strut bars they will make a diff and cost more, but never really feel it untill you hit a hard turn, but it's up to you, I have baught those high end one's and sold them to make some money and tried all diff kinds and never saw any big diff or atleast a reason to spend the extra on it..
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

It's all for looks my man. I got the same bar.
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

thanks bros...

ill prolly get it...

i have a lil money and its burning a hole in my pocket...!!!!

heheheheh it always goes twards tha lude!!
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

I bought the same ones. They are not bad, pain in the ass to get in and set properly. But they do make a difference in handling. Much tighter in turns, less body roll. For the price I'd say its worth it. Compare it to some of the brand name stuff and the prices are ridiculous. I didn't put the Rear lower bar on though.
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

haha right after i posted that msg...i orderred....well not that...

i got the avs ventvisors....

like the rainguaard things...ive always wanted some and love the way they clean up the lude....

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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

why not both?? they are only $45 shipped...
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

well i only had like 50 buks to spend...and it was between the tie bar and the rainguards....and well IMO. the rainguards will but put to a better use!
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

the price isnt bad...

but if your going performance dont get them
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

They do make a difference. We did a back to back test with a mate's 5g with a no-name bar off ebay, then a Neuspeed one. We noticed a huge difference from nothing to the ebay one, and a noticable difference from ebay to Neuspeed. So while not as good as a "proper" for the want of a better word strut bar they're not a bad product and certainly better than nothing.

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...unless you get the lower strut bars they will make a diff and cost more, ..
Really? This is the first time I've ever seen somebody say that the lower tie bars actually do something other than scrape on the ground and get in the way...
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its worth it if your going for looks, but if your going for functionality forget it, they wont really help at all. of course the price looks pleasing compared to 300+ minimum for those 3 pieces made from a good company.. so its up to you. dont expect the, to really do anything handling wise..
So you are saying that a front and rear upper strut bar and front lower tie rod will make no difference handling wise?????????? Sorry but thats not true. Chassy flex is not unusual and it's prominent during hard cornering. Bracing the strut towers will help handling (why would Honda fit a front strut brace on a 5th gen prelude if it has no function???). The lower tie bar is a little less noticealbe unless you push the car on a track and it can get in the way if your car is lowered.

For the price that is a good deal. A strut is a strut, yes some are more rigid and have a brand name but something will be better than nothing! You can up the tension on most of them anyway, so they will work regardless of the price tag.
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So you are saying that a front and rear upper strut bar and front lower tie rod will make no difference handling wise?????????? Sorry but thats not true. Chassy flex is not unusual and it's prominent during hard cornering. Bracing the strut towers will help handling (why would Honda fit a front strut brace on a 5th gen prelude if it has no function???). The lower tie bar is a little less noticealbe unless you push the car on a track and it can get in the way if your car is lowered.

For the price that is a good deal. A strut is a strut, yes some are more rigid and have a brand name but something will be better than nothing! You can up the tension on most of them anyway, so they will work regardless of the price tag.
Smart man, I've been saying it from the start. i've tried all types of bars and seen no big change in the diff of the bar they all hold it nice and tight as long as you know how to put them on. if they want the name i'll sell them some stickers..lol
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Smart man, I've been saying it from the start. i've tried all types of bars and seen no big change in the diff of the bar they all hold it nice and tight as long as you know how to put them on. if they want the name i'll sell them some stickers..lol
One thing that I can add is that reputation is important for most people. Buying branded strut braces is nice in that it infers quality, but all strut braces will atleast serve a similar function when installed with some tension. So if you aren't building a JDM show car where every part is branded, a cheap ebay alternative can work.

Also, you woun't be able to notice a difference between a no-name aftermarket brace and a branded strut brace (unless it's a different design, ie 3way brace etc) unless you are a consistent driver on a set track and are able to get better lap times from a more expensive brace, which is unlikely to be achieved.
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So you are saying that a front and rear upper strut bar and front lower tie rod will make no difference handling wise?????????? Sorry but thats not true. Chassy flex is not unusual and it's prominent during hard cornering. Bracing the strut towers will help handling (why would Honda fit a front strut brace on a 5th gen prelude if it has no function???). The lower tie bar is a little less noticealbe unless you push the car on a track and it can get in the way if your car is lowered.

For the price that is a good deal. A strut is a strut, yes some are more rigid and have a brand name but something will be better than nothing! You can up the tension on most of them anyway, so they will work regardless of the price tag.

no, i did not say that. but what i did say (or meant, whichever) is that these bars are not the strongest or made the best. a solid one piece bar will help. will these bars help? yeah i dont see how they would make it worse, but with the joints and what they are made of, there are alot of places where they can give. i can say this because i HAVE one.. the actual BAR itself is fine, the bolts on the ends are decent, but the brackets bother me. i can almost bend the brackets myself... but they will help, but dont expect these to be as good as some of the one piece welded bars out there..


yes you can up th tension, i upped the tension up ALOT on mine. i jacked the car up and tightened the bar as much as possible then put the car back down, and i could watch the bar flex a little...but it has not broken yet so im sure its doing something!
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

I have one of the cheap bars too, and yes all seems strudy except for the point where the centre piece joins the bracket on the strut. Once the bolts are torqued up it does strengthen a fair bit so I wouldn't worry about it. Just something to debate, a solid one piece bar is probably less effective for you cant tension it, hence it will just "fit on/slide on" but wount have any tension on it. I would think that being able to adjust the tension is crucial for it to be effective but then there will be less flex in a one piece....lol

Just checkout our strut brace Kyleb1115 and I see what you mean, your bracket that fits on the strut seems really thin. Here is a pic of your brace and my brace side by side:


So yes, there will be some differences depending on the strut brace. I bought my front strut brace new for $28 US, but it's maybe not all that bad.
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The thing is that like a board you can break it easy when it's long ways but if you try to break it vertically it's imposible, now take that concept with metal, and unless your doing like auto cross it's not flexing like that and for just some hard running and turns it's fine, (( Food for thought)) Maybe thats why their so much cheaper, for the cost of materal they made twice as many brackets, but also they have to have been stress tested before sale..
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Re: Ebay: tie bar...

soo after reading all that...im pretty sure ill be gettin on....and using it on my car...

like said bfore im not into all that name brand stuff...yeah its nice and ill buy jdm eveynow and then...but upwords of 200 buks for a strut bar is a lil re dic. if u ask me...

Imo: I agree w the doing something but not the best statement...yeah it is ebay..but still...its bolted on and would take a lot of pressure to break..even if it is ebay....

thnks for all the imput guys and im glad i got this worrked out...!!
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