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DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

I've been searching, but I cannot find an answer. My question is can I bolt on a 4G63 transmission onto an H22? The reason I ask is because I've been looking into possibly converting a 'Lude to AWD. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

I believe there was some corruption of the Accord that was sold as the Torneo in Europe, and that was awd, so your best bet would be to research that.


But with time and money anything can be made to fit.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

The main reason I asked specifically on the 4G63 trans is because I own a 1G myself and I can get my hands on an AWD trans pretty easily and relatively cheap. It snows in Missouri, so an AWD Prelude would be nice to have aside from making it my AutoX car.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

With awd cars so readily available over there it makes little to no sence to spend the money and time to convert a Prelude to awd just because it's "nice to have." The amount of custom work involved would be immense. And after you'd spent all that money, a slightly worked WRX will still wipe the floor with you performance wise.

I'm not saying don't do it, because I'd love to see it. But we've seen it happen a bunch of times before when somebody gets really excited, spends a bunch of money, then realises that the car will never be what they want, so they get dejected, sell the car, sell the parts for a fraction of what they cost, and generally they continually tell people how useless the Prelude forum was because they didn't see on there that it's a hard car to modify.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

the whole rear suspension will have to be modified, there is no place to put a axle back there.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

rear driveshaft too. youd have to make room for that
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

yup yup. dude its always been my dream to make my lude AWD but its not somethin you can jst wake one morning and decide to do. because dont forget, even if you do find all the parts and ways to fit the driveshaft and etc, you have to find a shop that will actually do that conversion for you. cuz i highly doubt any of us can do that ourselves. this has to be well planned out and have a ton of money and like brash said you can spend the same money or less on a wrx and have it shmoke the lude. its true, even though i hate saying it.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

hey it could be done. just better have some deep pockets!
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

I know I'd get dusted by such WRX, but that's why I have my DSM to eat them and those STy's too ;)

The H22 is one of my favorite motors, the 4G63 being my first. My Prelude wouldn't be a drag car, itd be my AutoCross car. An NA 2.2 (or 2.3 if I do the H23 deal) that's pushing 250-300whp is great for that, seeing that my 400whp 20G powered DSM would get his ass kicked in an AutoX track by cars with half the power. I was originally going to build another 4G powered car, possibly a Mirage, but again, the Turbo will lag. I also thought about the NA version of the 4G, but after giving it some thought, I realized I wanted a challenge and that challenge was to go back to my Honda VTEC days and build my all time favorite, the underestimated H22. Too many Honda kids (no offense) have B and K-Series and quite frankly, I'm tired of seeing them. I don't see very many 4th gen 'Ludes with H22's in my area and itd be nice to have another. The 4th gen has always been my favorite body style in the Prelude family (though doing some fab work to fit the 5th gen rear end would be sick) and I want to do something a little different. AWD is one of the options I was looking at. Its been done before, so why not again? So please don't tell me "its not worth it and just buy an AWD car" or "you're wasting your money" because though its nice to see some helpfulness in that area, its not going to stop me from doing what I do. Plus how sick would it be to have a Turbo AWD and an NA AWD, both converted (yes, my DSM is FWD). That would be pretty sick in my book.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?




I just really am in shock right now so... one good luck making it NA with 250-300 whp

All I have to say is... If you plan to autoX a car that has that much work put into it be ready to be dissapointed.

If the car would even be able to be put in a class it would be sm or ssm it would still not be competitive.

This would be a huge waist of money.

I'm not even going to waist time going deep into this discussion.

Just for some real info though. You would be better off doing an H2B swap and using crv parts to try this.... Not some sh!tttt dsm parts.

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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

it would be bad ass to have an AWD K24 motor/drivetrain in a lude. I'm sure it would cost quite a bit and you would have to do some serious modification to the chasis but hey, I'm just sayin.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

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I just really am in shock right now so... one good luck making it NA with 250-300 whp

All I have to say is... If you plan to autoX a car that has that much work put into it be ready to be dissapointed.

If the car would even be able to be put in a class it would be sm or ssm it would still not be competitive.

This would be a huge waist of money.

I'm not even going to waist time going deep into this discussion.

Just for some real info though. You would be better off doing an H2B swap and using crv parts to try this.... Not some sh!tttt dsm parts.
Well frrom what I've read, an H22/23 combo will put me at 220 stock. If I build off of that, I can hit the 280 mark. DSM parts aren't sh!t. They're made to withstand the power of a Turbo (though yes they break if you push them too hard). But like I said, either way, itd be nice to have an AWD 'Lude, no K-Series, no B-Series, just the good ol' H-Series.
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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

It would be an H22 with a b16/b18 transmission... That is what an H2B is.

You really think you are going to mate up your dsm transmission with an h22???

I'm telling you an easier way.

And as for a "stock" h22/h23 combo.. you will not see 220 at the wheels.

Here is one of the best h22/h23 cars out there. http://www.preludezone.com/members-r...whp-178tq.html

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Re: DSM 4G63 Transmission on H22?

Hey, all I was asking is if it was possible to mount the two together, even if I had to do some tweaking to it. I never said it will mount up, that's why I asked. And I know what an H2B is lol.
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Hey, all I was asking is if it was possible to mount the two together, even if I had to do some tweaking to it. I never said it will mount up, that's why I asked. And I know what an H2B is lol.
Didn't sound like you knew what an H2B was to me.

Like stated above, anything is possible with the money.

You are better off with what I said though if you are serious about this.

BUT also like stated, you are better off buying a WRX or something.
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As much as I'd love to see this done, I offer you the same comment I offer everybody else: There's no point in being the first to do something if you're second across the finish line. Like I said in an earlier post, you could go and spend all this money and time setting it up and getting it to work, then a lightly worked WRX will still walk all over you. And if they've spent as much as you have, then there's no way that you'll even be close.
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I know I'd get dusted by such WRX, but that's why I have my DSM to eat them and those STy's too ;)

The H22 is one of my favorite motors, the 4G63 being my first. My Prelude wouldn't be a drag car, itd be my AutoCross car. An NA 2.2 (or 2.3 if I do the H23 deal) that's pushing 250-300whp is great for that, seeing that my 400whp 20G powered DSM would get his ass kicked in an AutoX track by cars with half the power. I was originally going to build another 4G powered car, possibly a Mirage, but again, the Turbo will lag. I also thought about the NA version of the 4G, but after giving it some thought, I realized I wanted a challenge and that challenge was to go back to my Honda VTEC days and build my all time favorite, the underestimated H22. Too many Honda kids (no offense) have B and K-Series and quite frankly, I'm tired of seeing them. I don't see very many 4th gen 'Ludes with H22's in my area and itd be nice to have another. The 4th gen has always been my favorite body style in the Prelude family (though doing some fab work to fit the 5th gen rear end would be sick) and I want to do something a little different. AWD is one of the options I was looking at. Its been done before, so why not again? So please don't tell me "its not worth it and just buy an AWD car" or "you're wasting your money" because though its nice to see some helpfulness in that area, its not going to stop me from doing what I do. Plus how sick would it be to have a Turbo AWD and an NA AWD, both converted (yes, my DSM is FWD). That would be pretty sick in my book.
honestly dude, u got a point there. im a big fan of the H22 myself. and even though a ton of ppl might think this is a stupid idea, but i think you should go for it. at least it sounds like u know wat u r doing compared to some other ppl who jst talk about it. i say go for it, and then let me know what your quarter mile time was. lol.
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