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So i recently bought two new rims.

Why did i buy only two?
Well i went on a trip and didnt want to roll with the stock bent one i had and didnt have enough money for all four at the time.

After seeing a thread on here i realized that i mightve made a huge mistake, but hopefully its not hard to fix.

Basically I think i bought to big of a wheel and it might rub when i put on the fronts. I have a 235/40/17. Everything is stock on the lude but i plan on lowering it when i get the funds.

Now is this tire too big when i put it on the front?

Can i keep the same style rims and just put smaller rims on the front?

I got a really good deal on the rims and would hate to have to sell them just because im retarded, someone please help me and tell me what they would do in my situation (if they were stupid enough to do so, without researching)
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

the tire is most likely too wide and you'll rub alot. the only way to tell is to put them on and see if you rub.

i'm assuming their def gonna rub in the front without a doubt and if they do, switch them. put the 235/40/17's in the rear and the stocks (or whatever is on the rear now) on the front cuz those are most likely a muchhh smaller tire. then, there's a CHANCEEEEE (not a huge one, but a chance) that they won't rub in the rear.
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

I have the 17's in the rear and the stock in the front.

Should i sell my 17's and downgrade to a smaller tire if so what size?

Better for me could i keep the 17's in the back and get the same style wheel in the front but a smaller size like 16?
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

no the size of the WHEEL is fine, everyone and their mom runs 17's. you just need smaller tires. i got 215/40/17's on my 17's, and i THINK 225/40's could possibly fit w/o rubbing but i'm not too sure. 235/40's are just asking for trouble tho.

just sell the tires and get some 215/40s. problem solved.
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

what type of rubbing are you taling about? (not to sound rude)

Im not as much worried about it rubbing the top of the wheel well as much as i am worried about it rubbing the sides.
I dont want to go and buy the two for the front and find out i can't turn.

If i keep the same tires will they rub the insides when i turn?

I dont plan on lowering my car for a while,

But you have definatly releived my senses on keeping the wheels =]]]]]]

Also with smaller tires, am i changing my handling and performance?
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

either the wheel well or the suspension knuckle.


if you JUST got those wheels/tires, your not even gonna notice a difference with the smaller tires.
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

ok so for clarification of the whole issue.

Keep the 17 in wheels (both front and rear) but change all the tires to a 215/40/17 instead of my huge 235/40/17 (What is the difference between the two?)

So after changing ONLY the tires i should be good to go and be able to lower it without a problem?
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

oh mann, you bought wheels and tires without even knowing anything about tire sizes??
thats how you end up wasting alottttttttttttt of money, as you just found out.


215/40/17:
the first number, 215, is the WIDTH of the tire, in millimeters.
the second #, 40, is the aspect ratio of the sidewall to the width: so the sidewall is 40% of the width (215 x .4 = 86mm)
the third, is the diameter of wheel/tire.


yes, you'll have no problem. i ran 215/40/17 and lowered 2.5". no rubbing.
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

haha
thankssssss

it was a heck of a deal and couldnt pass up $600 for rims and tires, the place i got them from sucks and just threw them on, anyway

thanks for the information.

but if i change the tire size i should be all good to go?
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

you only bought 2 for $600???? that really isn't too good of a deal at all,haha.


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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

haha
chill niggggga
im going ape crap because i dont have alot of money to be wasting

thanks for clearing everything up

and its $600 for the whole set, i got 2 for $300
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

word. thats much better of a deal!

i saw your member ride and i'm really liking how they look. once you drop that thang, i think those rims will really pop!
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Re: Wheel problem need extreme help

thanks man

if you read the future mods and se the exterior and picture it like i do it will be pretty sick, just wish i wasnt so poor haha
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yes, you'll have no problem. i ran 215/40/17 and lowered 2.5". no rubbing.
That's what I run every summer with no problems. Seems to be the winning com-bo-nation for 17" rims. Good luck dood.
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235/40/17 should fit just fine if the wheel has the proper offset. The OD is a little larger than stock, but not a big deal.

A friend of mine used to run 235/40/17s on 17x8 SSR Comps (+48mm offset) without any rubbing issues except at full suspension compression while turning (i.e. doesn't happen often). He even tracked his car like that without any issues, but his car wasn't slammed. It was low, but not riding on the bumpstops low. Note this was on a 5Gen, but I know a guy that races a 4Gen on 17x8 Rotas with 235/40/17 Toyos without any rubbing issues.

In the rear, you might rub on the small plastic mounting tab for the rear bumper. You can shave that down a bit and it'll eliminate the rubbing on the rear. On the front, he didn't have to do anything.

I've run 225/50/15s for years on my track car without any problems, even when it was my daily driver. I just let the tire shave that tab on the rear bumper for me. :) Once I upgraded to 15x8s with +40mm offset, I had to roll the rear fenders and shave that tab, but I haven't done any mods to the front, and they fit fine. HOWEVER, 225/50/15s are close to OEM diameter. Since yours are larger, there is more potential to rub.

I did run 225/50/15 Hoosiers on 15x8 Rotas (+40mm offset) with no rubbing issues on the front at all, and 225 Hoosiers have an OA width of 10+ (!!) inches on an 8" wide rim. That's going to be a fair bit wider than your 235s.

So, as long as your wheels have at least 45mm offset, you should be okay. You might have to roll the rear fenders and shave the tab on the rear bumper. You might get some rubbing on the front due to the larger OD of the tires, but that'll depend more on the ride height and suspension stiffness.

I have tried fitting 245/40/17s on my 17x8.5 RPF1s (+40mm offset), and the fender is an issue on the front and rear. There is plenty of clearance on the knuckles. I plan to run 245s up front with modified front fenders, but I'll run a 225 in the rear. I did run 225/40/17s on the 17x8.5s without any rubbing on the front and no rubbing in the rear (due to rolled fenders) last year at TWS.
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235/40/17 should fit just fine if the wheel has the proper offset. The OD is a little larger than stock, but not a big deal.

A friend of mine used to run 235/40/17s on 17x8 SSR Comps (+48mm offset) without any rubbing issues except at full suspension compression while turning (i.e. doesn't happen often). He even tracked his car like that without any issues, but his car wasn't slammed. It was low, but not riding on the bumpstops low. Note this was on a 5Gen, but I know a guy that races a 4Gen on 17x8 Rotas with 235/40/17 Toyos without any rubbing issues.

In the rear, you might rub on the small plastic mounting tab for the rear bumper. You can shave that down a bit and it'll eliminate the rubbing on the rear. On the front, he didn't have to do anything.

I've run 225/50/15s for years on my track car without any problems, even when it was my daily driver. I just let the tire shave that tab on the rear bumper for me. :) Once I upgraded to 15x8s with +40mm offset, I had to roll the rear fenders and shave that tab, but I haven't done any mods to the front, and they fit fine. HOWEVER, 225/50/15s are close to OEM diameter. Since yours are larger, there is more potential to rub.

I did run 225/50/15 Hoosiers on 15x8 Rotas (+40mm offset) with no rubbing issues on the front at all, and 225 Hoosiers have an OA width of 10+ (!!) inches on an 8" wide rim. That's going to be a fair bit wider than your 235s.

So, as long as your wheels have at least 45mm offset, you should be okay. You might have to roll the rear fenders and shave the tab on the rear bumper. You might get some rubbing on the front due to the larger OD of the tires, but that'll depend more on the ride height and suspension stiffness.

I have tried fitting 245/40/17s on my 17x8.5 RPF1s (+40mm offset), and the fender is an issue on the front and rear. There is plenty of clearance on the knuckles. I plan to run 245s up front with modified front fenders, but I'll run a 225 in the rear. I did run 225/40/17s on the 17x8.5s without any rubbing on the front and no rubbing in the rear (due to rolled fenders) last year at TWS.
i wonder how different the wheel setup is for a 4th gen from a 5th?

so should i go with the smaller tire size or keep the 235's?

how can i find my offset?
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