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well i need to put a new distributor in my lude does that mean i have to redo the timing...? also i got no idea ive never done this b4 but i guess ill look into the manual.....anyone got suggestions on how to do the timing myself or if i should take it to a good mechanic who actually knows wat theyre doing i wouldnt mind learning tho.....
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

Its just 3 12mm bolts to take off the distributor.
Make sure u know the firing order that the plug wires are in.

The key way only allows the distributor to be installed one way. If you can get ahold of a timing light, you clamp the pickup on the #1 plug wire, then shoot the timing on the flywheel after removing the lil rubber plug to the left of the header in between the motor and transmission.
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

uh lost me on the timing part......
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

yeah this is something i have been wanting to learn about, shoof is more info please!! lol
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

If you know anyone that knows how to use a timing light it could save you some headache.
But installing the dizzy on the motor isn't hard at all.
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

If your putting a new distrib. in ur car its only 3 bolts.....undo those and the distrib pulls out. it should only go in one or two ways ( think on preludes it only goes in one) but if you put it in one way and ur car runs like junk take it back out and twist it 180 degress around. also if u have a jdm h22a your holes for your bolts are honed out a lil so u can advance or retard your timing just play with it till it sounds like its idling good! good luck
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

with obd1 you can slightly turn it to advance or retardededed your timing correct??

i have a 4th gen obd2a f22a1 and i heard with those you cannot do that^???
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

yah my lude is obd1 and i can adjust my timing through it u can tell just by looking at the holes where the bolts go through. if theyre elongated then u can play around with it not too sure about the f22's but maybe?
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

well mines as h23 i think its a 2.3l dohc.......
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

h23 and h22 distributors are pretty much the same. I have an h23 dizzy on my jdm h22. The slots on the distributor mounting ears are elongated to allow adjustability.

The way the key is designed, the distributor only goes on ONE way.

One side of the key is slanted, and one side of the end of the camshaft is slotted the same way. Just slapping it in will put the timing within a few degrees of being on point, but it won't be correct.
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

yeah i thought the dizzy only went in one way. ive done so many distributor jobs on so many vehicles i forget sometimes....does ur h23 distrib in ur h22 have a internal or external coil? when i did my h22a swap in my prelude it wouldnt fire until i put my usdm distrib back in with the external coil...just wondering
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My h23 distributor is external coil.
I WAS using the internal coil JDM dizzy that came with my motor. After it crapped out on me, I switched to an external coil dizzy that would allow me to make use of the external coil that had to be plugged in anyways



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I don't know if this has been stickied on this forum or whatever....but if you swap a JDM h22 motor into a USDM car, you can either switch distributors. OR you can put a 20A fuse in the plug that plugs into the coil. I tried it one day after reading about it on 92lude.com, and sure enough...it still worked normal.
Just stuck a fuse the only way it would fit into the plug, then wrapped it very ghetto-ly with electrical tape

Cliffs notes for H22a swap into USDM obd1 car (regarding the internal vs external coil issue):
Pick one...
-leave coil plugged in with the the internal coil'd JDM dizzy
-stick 20A fuse in the plug that gets plugged into the external coil
-switch distributor to USDM

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yeah i thought the dizzy only went in one way. ive done so many distributor jobs on so many vehicles i forget sometimes....does ur h23 distrib in ur h22 have a internal or external coil? when i did my h22a swap in my prelude it wouldnt fire until i put my usdm distrib back in with the external coil...just wondering
you didn't try plugging the coil in did you?
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

so how can you tell if its an obd 1 ???


also....my car has always been idling high(round 1200),,,never knew it could be the timing
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what year is it?
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

huh....never knew that fuse trick thats nice to know.i didnt know what to do with the coil plug since the jdm distrib had a internal coil so i left it open. but that fuse trick is pretty cool....buy the looks of ur pic u drive a 92-96 prelude its most likely obd1 unless u swapped motors and ecus. also if ur car is idling high u could try to retard the distrib or play with ur throttle cable but i wouldnt fret over 1200rpms mine idles at 1000rpms its fine
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

92 to 95 prelude are OBD1... all 96+ cars ever made in the US should be OBD2 by law. ford got fined heavily b.c they did not switch all their cars out in time from 95 to 96

1200rpm idle is a little high tho... try turning in your idle screw some
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

I think i need to do this to!!! :( sucks!!
Tell me how it goes man!!! if i do it before u il let u know lol good luck
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

well i just put the new distributor on thx to all the help i just bolted it up and slighty moved it around till it idled about rite totally fixed my problem my check engine light is off yay!
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

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huh....never knew that fuse trick thats nice to know.i didnt know what to do with the coil plug since the jdm distrib had a internal coil so i left it open. but that fuse trick is pretty cool....buy the looks of ur pic u drive a 92-96 prelude its most likely obd1 unless u swapped motors and ecus. also if ur car is idling high u could try to retard the distrib or play with ur throttle cable but i wouldnt fret over 1200rpms mine idles at 1000rpms its fine
its a 92

what fuse trick....swapped w 94 h22a1....95 ecu....well cuz when i ws reading the manual it says it should be idling at 700
lol but idk the screw is already closed all the way and messing w/the cable idk if thats a good idea
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H22A1 should Idle at 750 +/- 50rpm. Hmm, if adjusting the idle screw/cable isn't fixing it...maybe your throttle is sticking a little bit.
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Re: installing new distributor.....and timing...

congrats tyco! good job man.

Spec for idle is indeed 750rpm +/- 50
My car idles at about 1100 when warmed up, but i know my throttle is sticking a little because i stick my foot behind the gas pedal and pull up and it idles about 8-900, which I can deal with.
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what fuse trick....swapped w 94 h22a1....95 ecu...
For dealing with the JDM internal coil in the distributor, and the USDM external coil distributor issue.
The JDM coil is inside the distributor, and if you just remove the USDM coil from the engine bay, the car won't start.
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H22A1 should Idle at 750 +/- 50rpm. Hmm, if adjusting the idle screw/cable isn't fixing it...maybe your throttle is sticking a little bit.
right!....so what do you reccomend for this "sticking" ....carb cleaner? cuz i messt wt it when i got it but never thought about it sticking lol
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