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SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

hey i have just asking if there is any place that had a turtorial about how much how this is and what i all nice and how easy is this i have done quite a pit of reserch on this. thanks.( need a new engine cuz i broke my rod bearing)
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=510617 this will help a bit

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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

sorry no thanks man i am going to buy an h23 vtec and put it in my lude that had an h23 nonvtec and i wanted a write up on that but i guess thanks for trying
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

ok this is the engine that i want to get and put in my lude will it be hard or easy cuz it is an h23 so i was think that is should be easy


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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

ohh, i thought you wanted to do the frankenstein motor sorry lol....keep us updated on your swap

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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

the swap is identical to an H22 swap... Your going to need motor and ECU. You will have to wire up VTEC....

Not all that hard. Theres probably 100 writeups available.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

Yep. Bluetop FTW. Everything will line up...Just need the motor/ECU.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

ok good i thought i reseached and it said that everything would line up but i thought i was ask you guys too and how hard it is to wire up vtec any way. has any one every done this
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

I believe it's only two wires running from the ECU to the motor. CAKE.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

hell yeah well then i think that is the engine swap i am going to do
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

Don't quote me on that though, I've never done it lol. Still do your research, that way you can't blame me when ish hits the fan.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

o ok i willl
but damn i want to make sure that this is going to work before i start cuz if it is going to be to hard i am just going to got with the stock h23 non vtec but its there any one else on here and has done this or that know alot about it
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

its no different than the h22 swap. Its very simple and I have done one. Although, I was utterly dissapointed with it compared to the frankenstein and the H22. Since the price has come down on it significantly its not a bad deal at all and probably not so dissapointing.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

So what you are trying to say lil bluelude is that i should just go for the h22 swap. The thing is i have header exhaust and intake for an h23 already and all that stuff wouldnt be able to be put on the h22. That is why i was thinking about the h23. But what do you mean i might be dissapointed why do you say that.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

Sorry, I wasnt saying not to do this swap... I was just saying its no different than a h22 externally. It swaps in the same as a h22 would with mounts and everything. It used to be 3x the price of a h22 and had very little benefits over the h22, thats why I was disapointed with it so much.

You WILL NOT be able to use the h23 header (its a h22 head) btw. The other parts can be made to work with it. I thought you had done your research on this motor!?!??

It is going to be OBD2. I really recommend getting a tunable ECU as well.. Convert it to OBD1 and have it tuned. You will make more power and be much happier with the powerband overall!
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+1 on getting a good tune. I'm not sure on the price differences between the blue-top and the H22, but doesn't the blue-top only make like ~25 more hp/tq than the H22? Research the prices, and if it comes down to it, you could probably get the H22 and parts for a head build for about the same price as the blue-top.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

heh.. the blue top makes about the same hp and TQ as the h22. Price is about 2-500 more now as I see it around.



It only came in an auto version. redline is 6800 on it (auto induced), although i usually see 7200 listed.


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Proved me wrong. Def. go with an H22 then IMO.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

o ok well this is the engine i want to get and i would buy an ECU for it and it only came in auto and manual so what would i have to do there since i have a manual and i am not sure what i am going to do now

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A Blue-Top for $890? That's not bad...Get the manual ECU for the Blue-Top (not sure which it is, maybe P13?). Or better yet, get a chipped P28, an OBD2>OBD1 conversion harness, and a tune with Hondata/Crome/NepTune/eCtune.
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Blue-Tops only came in auto? Icky.
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i would not buy an engine from there....


being an auto doesnt hurt anything. All you have to do is take off the torque converter and drive plate and bolt on the flywheel and clutch assembly.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

I've heard some bad things about Tiger also. I know a lot more people prefer Hmotorsonline, you might wanna check them out.
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I've heard some bad things about Tiger also. I know a lot more people prefer Hmotorsonline, you might wanna check them out.
Hey what is bad about Tiger any way. I will check that place out too.
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

Hey i just cheked out the site and they didnt have a many engines and the had one h23 vtec and it was $1600. Im a 16 year old school kid that is broke.
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I understand your situation, believe me, I do. But buying an engine is not one thing you want to be cheap about. Fast, cheap, reliable. You can only have two. I can't tell you exactly what is wrong with Tiger motors (since I've never had to deal with them), but I have heard many many people complain about them.
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O ok well do you know any where i could get a good cheap engine. Hey and thanks for the fast repley
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Re: SWAP h23 to h23 VTEC

I've never bought an engine off the internet so I'm not really sure, but I know lots of people think highly of Hmotors. I wouldn't rush into buying an engine. Be patient, do your research, and eventually a good deal will pop up for you.
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