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Clutch Failure possibly?

So last night on the way to my christmas party for work I was just about to throw her in 3rd gear and she said no to me. No grinding, just wouldn't go period. I almost got stuck on the side of the road but got her jammed in enough to pull off to the side.

Car goes in gear fine when the car is off, all gears, no problem.

When it's on it won't budge into any at all, and if i try to force it into any gear I can feel the car start to move forward a little. If I put it in a gear then start the car it just jumps forward/backward as if I let the clutch out in while in gear and killed it.

Pedal feels fine, has pressure. I was thinking TOB or clutch, but the clutch has showed me no signs whatsoever of slipping. Any ideas?
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Its the master and slave cylinders man. Mine did the same thing. It felt like it had pressure but it really didn't.
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Its the master and slave cylinders man. Mine did the same thing. It felt like it had pressure but it really didn't.
both of them or one or the other? And how can I find out which...is there any way to test them?
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both of them or one or the other? And how can I find out which...is there any way to test them?
Do them both man its worth it. That and the slave is like 12 bucks and most of the time its the master.
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Well I work at NAPA so they're both pretty cheap :]
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Well I work at NAPA so they're both pretty cheap :]
There you go man get them done.
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Re: Clutch Failure possibly?

the swap for the master is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch. I HIGHLY recommend some good mechanic's gloves cause it's a true knuckle buster. If you still have problems after that, i dont know if it is the clutch....doesn't sound like a clutch problem. For your sake i would hope for faulty master/slave cylinders....otherwise i was gonna say sounds like the tranny isnt lubricated properly. Which gears exactly are causing problems? all of em or is just 3rd and maybe 1st?
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Re: Clutch Failure possibly?

Car is on all the gears are blocked out.

Car is off they all work fine



I went to my car today, played with the shifter for awhile, got it to budge into second, and then the rest of the gears worked fine, drove it home with no problems.

Replacing the slave just to be safe but I honestly don't know what the deal is.
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Re: Clutch Failure possibly?

I hope you have little hands. Slave was a bitch to get in cuz the fan motor is right where your hand needs to be lol. It would have been nothing for Honda to just put the fking bolts on top but no. They had to be assholes about it.
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the swap for the master is a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch. I HIGHLY recommend some good mechanic's gloves cause it's a true knuckle buster. If you still have problems after that, i dont know if it is the clutch....doesn't sound like a clutch problem. For your sake i would hope for faulty master/slave cylinders....otherwise i was gonna say sounds like the tranny isnt lubricated properly. Which gears exactly are causing problems? all of em or is just 3rd and maybe 1st?
actually it definitely does sound like a clutch problem lol
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actually it definitely does sound like a clutch problem lol
i'm not saying it isn't, I'm just saying it doesn't sound like the usual symptoms of a clutch going out. It is usually a progressive wearing out instead of just all of a sudden. When or if a clutch completely breaks, it usually rattles loudly from the flywheel turning all the broken pieces inside if the car even starts or continues to run.

It could very well be the clutch, but i was just keeping an eye out in case it was an issue with the tranny as we all know they are somewhat fragile. Either way, it would just be better if it is the hydraulics that have gone out...that would save lots of time and money.
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Hey everyone im new to this and im not to car savy :D... Ok here it goes, I have a 90 prelude 2.0si 5-speed.
I just had the slave cylinder and master cylinder and clutch pressure hose replaced cause my hose was leaking and the slave cylinder eruptured. 2 weeks after those got fixed my stock clutch started to slip so I parked it.
I bought a stage 3 clutch from clutchnet.com and had a shop put it in. The guys from clutchnet said it would work fine with my stock set up.
So i got my car back this last friday and it was running perfectly wow I was so happy. Then today two days later (sunday) I was driving my car to a local taco shop which is only 1 mile from my house and on the way back the clutch started to slip a lil. Then when I got home 2 minutes later I went to park it and put it in neutral to open my gate then hopped back in, got ready to park it, pushed in the clutch to put it in reverse and it wouldn't go. so I pushed it back into my parking spot and shut it off. I then checked the fluids for the master cylinder and it was good.
Later that day I went to see if it was done being stubborn, it was :D... I then went driving around the city everythings going great, i've been driving around for about 30 minutes through the city and freeways when my clutch starts to slip a lil, im like mother f*cker so I go to park it at home cause im so lost on y it's doing this. I stop at my gate to open it then jump back in TRY to put it in 1st it wont go into gear, I TRY 2nd nothing, I try all the gears NOTHING. I let it roll backwords and try it again same thing, NOTHING. I shut the car off push in the clutch and it goes into all the gears perfectly. I sit there for like 5 minutes start it back up it goes into gear so I park it.
Also im driving my car through the city the clutch is feeling good and smooth. I hop on the freeway and go about 10-15 miles to my exit, i take the exit and when I go to push in the clutch to put it in neutral to coast on the off ramp the clutch has a much stiffer feeling to it. Its a lil more pressure to push in then normally and springs back harder when i let the clutch out.
ive only gone about 100 miles on this new clutch. i have not dumped the clutch or raced it.

SO PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT HERE........



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Re: Clutch Failure possibly?

Normally this is a total thread hi-jack but it seems like it could be relevant....

DO NOT dump it for at least 500 miles. you have to baby it during the break in period. And yes a stage 3 will be require way more force to depress the pedal.

as for the slippage, when you got the new clutch put in, did they replace the flywheel or at least resurface it? how about the release bearing? hopefully replaced? Also, it is very important that they used Honda grade Urea grease (no pun, its really called that) for the lubricant points inside the clutch housing. No grinding noises?
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Well I drove my car around even more last night....not a single problem yet.
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it is possible for one of the clutch springs to snap which would cause the problem your talking about..I had this problem where sometimes it would go into gear and other times you could try for ages and it wouldnt. it may not necessary for your clutch face to wear to indicate your having clutch problems but if one of your springs is fractured or broken its gonna feel like your clutch is gone or wont go into gear at all..the reason why it goes into gear when ur car is off is because your clutch isnt rotating hence there is no friction.. if your slave or master was fked then it wouldnt go into gear full stop
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it is possible for one of the clutch springs to snap which would cause the problem your talking about..I had this problem where sometimes it would go into gear and other times you could try for ages and it wouldnt. it may not necessary for your clutch face to wear to indicate your having clutch problems but if one of your springs is fractured or broken its gonna feel like your clutch is gone or wont go into gear at all..the reason why it goes into gear when ur car is off is because your clutch isnt rotating hence there is no friction.. if your slave or master was fked then it wouldnt go into gear full stop
Well I've had many people tell me they have had the same problem with it going in gear when the car is off and it was their slave and/or master.
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Re: Clutch Failure possibly?

im having the same problem withmy h23 tranny. it wont go into any gears now. it was really hard 2 for the past 2 days now today it wont so nothing i think its the clutch and clutch pressure plate lmk what you did to fix your problem my slave looks fine
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THREAD JACK!.. (not really cause this thread is 5 months old)

ok so i finally found a thread similar to my problems right now. my car as it sits right now will not go into any gears if the car is on. but like the OPer said it would go into all gears when the car was off. difference is my car, when the car is running there is a clunking noise coming from the transmission. u can hear the clunking standing over the transmission but u can hear it a lot better when ur under the car. soooo, what could it be? it sounds like it could be what R8GYY said and the noise im hearing is the spring rolling around in the transmission. also i replaced the slave cylinder today hoping that would fix it but i didnt. any help would be greatly appreciated...
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3rdgen one of your clutch springs probably broke or clutch shifted making you not being able to change gears. same problem happened to me replace clutch pp and fw and your goood to god.. the noise is probably the spring hoping around
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thats wat im thinking too. i just need to get some money to get a clutch, pp, & fw.
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ebay bro. i bought a stock oem exedy clutch and pp, and fidanza 8lb flywheel for only 250 madd good deal dude and thats for the 4th gen maybe a lil cheaper for a 3rd
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i've searched ebay and cannot find a clutch, pp, & lightweight fly for 250. there are very few companies that make lightweight flys and they are pretty pricey.
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Same thing happended to me. turndedout that my cables were stretched, along as my clutch springs being worn out. Didn't have anything to do with the cylinders.
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ok so i finally found a thread similar to my problems right now. my car as it sits right now will not go into any gears if the car is on. but like the OPer said it would go into all gears when the car was off. difference is my car, when the car is running there is a clunking noise coming from the transmission. u can hear the clunking standing over the transmission but u can hear it a lot better when ur under the car. soooo, what could it be? it sounds like it could be what R8GYY said and the noise im hearing is the spring rolling around in the transmission. also i replaced the slave cylinder today hoping that would fix it but i didnt. any help would be greatly appreciated...
sorry to threadjack too , but this happened to me to me tonight i did the same process , slave cylinder replacement and nothing and before i buy the master slave i want to know if its not something else
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