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Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

...meant to put bad idle..lol, anyway

I finally got my car back last night from countless repairs. I've had this problem for sometime now but didn't address it because of other bigger problems before. Anyway, when i turn my headlights on the idle goes up and down (500 rpm to 1.5k).

When I take off the lights it goes up one last time to the upper 1k's and sits back down to a little under 1k and stops the annoying fluctuation.

Does anyone know what it may be? Why the heck would my headlights being on cause a rise and fall in idling?

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Re: Headlight causing back Idle...wtf

alternator might be going bad. get it checked out @ AAP/AZ.


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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

It can't be that because i dropped in a new altenator and battery last week. Any other clues? I heard some **** about a ground wire?

Thanks for the reply man, you been a big help these past weeks.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

Well... its either an alternator problem as stated or it could be one of several other things. The surging idle is common with voltage problems, ground problems, and air issues in the coolant...


Check the grounds for the headlights. They are located just behind the headlights on the inner fender area. Its a white flat connector with black wires coming out the bottom of it. Its 1-2 inches wide and is bolted(grounded) to the frame through a 10mm... there is one per headlight as well.. your headlights will not work once its unbolted. Take some sand paper and clean up the connection.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

ground problem bro. i'm an electronics major at purdue...
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

if u want u could try that Apexi grounding system. Heard it works real good.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

DONNNNNNNT waste your money on that Apexi crap.. LOL!

Just do the big three-- or 4 in my case-- I added the battery to starter.

DO have the Battery, Alternator AND Regulator Proffesionaly tested, as stated above. Just because it is new doesnt mean it isnt bad.
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DONNNNNNNT waste your money on that Apexi crap.. LOL!

Just do the big three-- or 4 in my case-- I added the battery to starter.

DO have the Battery, Alternator AND Regulator Proffesionaly tested, as stated above. Just because it is new doesnt mean it isnt bad.
Lol idk who u heard from that it was crap but i had a friend with a big camed out H22 civic and once he grounded the engine with that the idle was smoother and the engine could barley tell when the headlights were on.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

My car is having similar idle irregularities when I turn on lights and the A/C, is this grounding principal stuff similar for my air conditioner? I just always figured the engine had to work harder when the lights or the A/C is on but cleaning the ground contacts might cut down on the harder idle?
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My car is having similar idle irregularities when I turn on lights and the A/C, is this grounding principal stuff similar for my air conditioner? I just always figured the engine had to work harder when the lights or the A/C is on but cleaning the ground contacts might cut down on the harder idle?
Have u recently recharged ur A/C? If u have let sum of the stuff out. I overcharged my A/C and the car started to idle low, then high, then low, then high. Because it was struggling to condense too much freon
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

mine does it when i turn my wheel at idle, i just learned to deal with it. lol. but it's not severe as your problem.
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no I haven't recharged my freon once since I bought the car a year ago
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Lol idk who u heard from that it was crap but i had a friend with a big camed out H22 civic and once he grounded the engine with that the idle was smoother and the engine could barley tell when the headlights were on.

Really think about what you are saying, and defending... I am not trying to be rude... Just using a little common sense.
Everyone says, "I have a friend," or "I know someone," or "I read somewhere..."
Where is the practical application and personal knowledge in your statement? (fyi: I received my Specialty Electricians License in the 50-1000V class and worked/used this license and knowledge for proffesional employment of 5+ years-- in case you are questioning my lil diatribe here)


It is a fact that a positively charged particle is attracted to negatively charged base, or ground. Basic Science really. So when an electrical device is given a positive charge, it's only goal is to get to ground; ie: the negative. We, as creative thinking human beings, have discovered how to make it's journey to ground work FOR us.

Your car, and all of its metal components are one great big giant Ground. That is why ALL electrical components are attached to it at some point in the chain. You cannot tell me that installing this Apexi unit, which is JUST a "condensor" (edit: read: a few Small Capacitors) is going to make such a difference... your friend may have been patching another issue (a grounding issue probably- as mentioned by zbucy) with a band-aide instead of "fixing" the actual problem.

Your real goal is to REMOVE, or eliminate as MUCH resistance to the flow of current as Possible. Adding another component to this path is only restricting it MORE. LOL!
HENCE.. I refer BACK to the necessity of upgrading your electrical system by replacing the stock supply wires first, prefferably with the same size or {BETTER} LARGER wire. -refer to my Big3 write up in the DIY section. Is it necessry to use 1/0 AWG-- not really, but even replacing the stock 4AWG makes a helluva difference! I dont know about you, but in my build, I found a TON of corroded, broken, and LESS THAN Adequate wirring in a car that is Only 16 years old.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

Well i had my alarm recently installed and last night it woke me up at 3 am making a chirping noise repeatedly. The alarm didn't go off...just the same chirp noise you get when you arm the car.

The only way i can take it off is to trigger the alarm and then re-arm again. I believe i definitely have a electric problem...here is a list of some wacko **** thats been going on in the car.

1. my clock is constantly going (minutes are like seconds basically)
2. headlights are on, i get a up and down idle.
3. alarm gives me a repeated chirping noise sometimes (could take hours could be after a few minutes after arming the alarm)


I replaced my battery and altenator. Do you think its the regulator? That **** looks pretty old now that i come to think of it. Its that piece that has that "vent" look, right?.

Anyway, thanks for the replies, give me some clues here dudes.
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THAT Should Bring up a GIANT RED FLAG for you!

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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

Sorry i was not clear. I meant to say that the headlight and clock thing was happening way before my alarm was installed. Actually, i had an alarm on the car before my new alarm, but i took it off because that alarm would go off sometimes and it wasn't because of the alarm being sensitive, which may be another clue to my electric problem.

Anyway...so just to clear it up, this stuff has been happening before i installed this new alarm. The new alarm having this random repeated chirping noise is just adding to the problem.
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Really think about what you are saying, and defending... I am not trying to be rude... Just using a little common sense.
Everyone says, "I have a friend," or "I know someone," or "I read somewhere..."
Where is the practical application and personal knowledge in your statement? (fyi: I received my Specialty Electricians License in the 50-1000V class and worked/used this license and knowledge for proffesional employment of 5+ years-- in case you are questioning my lil diatribe here)


It is a fact that a positively charged particle is attracted to negatively charged base, or ground. Basic Science really. So when an electrical device is given a positive charge, it's only goal is to get to ground; ie: the negative. We, as creative thinking human beings, have discovered how to make it's journey to ground work FOR us.

Your car, and all of its metal components are one great big giant Ground. That is why ALL electrical components are attached to it at some point in the chain. You cannot tell me that installing this Apexi unit, which is JUST a "condensor" and a few Small Capacitors, is going to make such a difference... your friend may have been patching another issue (a grounding issue probably- as mentioned by zbucy) with a band-aide instead of "fixing" the actual problem.

Your real goal is to REMOVE, or eliminate as MUCH resistance to the flow of current as Possible. Adding another component to this path is only restricting it MORE. LOL!
HENCE.. I refer BACK to the necessity of upgrading your electrical system by replacing the stock supply wires first, prefferably with the same size or {BETTER} LARGER wire. -refer to my Big3 write up in the DIY section. Is it necessry to use 1/0 AWG-- not really, but even replacing the stock 4AWG makes a helluva difference! I dont know about you, but in my build, I found a TON of corroded, broken, and LESS THAN Adequate wirring in a car that is Only 16 years old.
Well i dont think ApexI, a world known company, would make a product that has no affect. And then creates FAKE dyno charts to prove that they do they're job.... but thats just me -_-

And by the way ur not adding to the electrical current path. U obviously dont know how its applyed or how it works. Maybe u should look it up some time.

http://www.apexi-usa.com/news_article.asp?id=2 <------ theres my proof. I rest my case.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

so you believe everything you see on the internet? that could, like said before, been used on a car that was already having electrical problems.... like a band aid. just like i'm sure adding a K&N filter to a car will add 25hp. yea with some tuning and if the previous air filter was dirty as ****. i think i'll trust electrics principles and theory over a website trying to sell a product. i don't doubt it helps. but i doubt it will help EVERY car its put on, especially a stock, brand new motor. upgrading to bigger ground wires will help EVERY car.

but i will second the cleaning of ground wires/replacing wires.
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Where are these ground wires? And how do you replace them?

My alarm went off last night, **** is pissing me off now!
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so you believe everything you see on the internet? that could, like said before, been used on a car that was already having electrical problems.... like a band aid. just like i'm sure adding a K&N filter to a car will add 25hp. yea with some tuning and if the previous air filter was dirty as ****. i think i'll trust electrics principles and theory over a website trying to sell a product. i don't doubt it helps. but i doubt it will help EVERY car its put on, especially a stock, brand new motor. upgrading to bigger ground wires will help EVERY car.

but i will second the cleaning of ground wires/replacing wires.
I never said it WILL help, i said to TRY it and see if THAT works. And if it IS a grounding issue ive HEARD and its been PROVEN to work. No one is telling anyone to do it. Plus its not like sumone just did a writeup on the website. Theres a dyno chart.... dont think u can fake the dynooooo.... but thats just me
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Well i had my alarm recently installed and last night it woke me up at 3 am making a chirping noise repeatedly. The alarm didn't go off...just the same chirp noise you get when you arm the car.

The only way i can take it off is to trigger the alarm and then re-arm again. I believe i definitely have a electric problem...here is a list of some wacko **** thats been going on in the car.

1. my clock is constantly going (minutes are like seconds basically)
2. headlights are on, i get a up and down idle.
3. alarm gives me a repeated chirping noise sometimes (could take hours could be after a few minutes after arming the alarm)


I replaced my battery and altenator. Do you think its the regulator? That **** looks pretty old now that i come to think of it. Its that piece that has that "vent" look, right?.

Anyway, thanks for the replies, give me some clues here dudes.
U have the prestiege alarm dont u.... lol. I have the same one. Go to the place u got it installed and tell them to turn down the sensitivity. Myn does the same exact thing, i cant keep it on at night or itll do its 4 chirp warning. Also with those other probs its like lilmsprelude said. Bring it there and tell them thats going on right after they installed it.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

Nah its a Scytek, 2 page alarm. It's not going off, every 4 to 6 hours it makes the "armed" chirp noise, constantly. And i realized my car resets the alarm because i programmed the alarm on silent arming and disarming and when i went to stop the chirping in the middle of the night, the arming and disarming wasn't silent anymore. So its like it reset itself.
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Nah its a Scytek, 2 page alarm. It's not going off, every 4 to 6 hours it makes the "armed" chirp noise, constantly. And i realized my car resets the alarm because i put the alarm on silent arming and disarming and when i went to stop the chirping in the middle of the night, the arming and disarming wasn't silent anymore. So its like it reset itself.
So take it to where u got it put in, 1st tell them to turn it down cause it goes off randomly. Then tell them what its been doing since it was put in.
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Where are these ground wires? And how do you replace them?
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

Instead of doing that just take it to the alarm place. They obviously messed it up and they'll fix it.
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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

there is a nagging suspicion in the back of my mind that there is an issue centered around, or near the ECU/Computer in your car. It is trying to compensate for something. ANd hence the reason for the erratic idle, bizzar actions of the clock, alarm, etc. I dont want to sit here and point fingers at the guys that installed the alarm.. new or old... BUT, when installing such a system a technician MUST tap into some essential/operational wiring in the car... and if it is a poor install, or a "cheap" product, there could be a ground loop issue that the computer does NOT know how to handle.
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The Super Ground System maximizes electrical component efficiency by combining and electrical grounding system with a battery current and voltage stabilization control unit. The control unit features an electrical charging system and a double electrical noise filter. The electrical noise filter smooths turbulent electrical current, providing a stable and consistent voltage flow to all your vehicles electrical components.
OMG-- ARE YOU FREAKING Serious??? FIRST: My 10 year old daughter has better grammar structure.
Second: You DO REALIZE, by design, the alternator in your vehicle uses three independant windings that create an AC current, yes folks, it is a three phase AC Generator...which is then converted to single phase DC, throught the use of diodes...
AND-- it is normal and VERY WELL Accepted, by ANY manufacturer of automobile electronics, for their devices to operate within a 3.5 Voltage variable... (11V to 14.5V)
and all this is magically Maintained by.... you guessed it, the Voltage Regulator ALREADY installed in your charging/electrical system.

I won't even go into the batteries natural role in this play....


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Re: Headlight causing bad Idle...wtf

One last little note about the "ground system".... and the most simplistic and BASIC reason they claim to have seen a 9whp gain....

UMMM... to install this thing, it involves adding 4AWG "GROUNDING WIRES" to a charging system. for $170+ !!!

My big three upgrade cost me just a hair over $50. --and that was using "NAME BRAND" components and 1/0 wire.

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Ok cool, thanks man. Thanks guys.
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I'm going to attempt to do your write up LilMsPrelude !! The only question I have is where did you get the 3 port battery connector? I'll do a Google search for the clamp and wires... Hey Runz you wanna order this together??

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One last little note about the "ground system".... and the most simplistic and BASIC reason they claim to have seen a 9whp gain....

UMMM... to install this thing, it involves adding 4AWG "GROUNDING WIRES" to a charging system. for $170+ !!!

My big three upgrade cost me just a hair over $50. --and that was using "NAME BRAND" components and 1/0 wire.

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as far as the APEXI , please...gimme a break.. have you EVEN Read any of that BS??? HAVE you done any Testing yourself or is it all Hear-say???

THIS Made me fall out of my chair laughing!!!


OMG-- ARE YOU FREAKING Serious??? FIRST: My 10 year old daughter has better grammar structure.
Second: You DO REALIZE, by design, the alternator in your vehicle uses three independant windings that create an AC current, yes folks, it is a three phase AC Generator...which is then converted to single phase DC, throught the use of diodes...
AND-- it is normal and VERY WELL Accepted, by ANY manufacturer of automobile electronics, for their devices to operate within a 3.5 Voltage variable... (11V to 14.5V)
and all this is magically Maintained by.... you guessed it, the Voltage Regulator ALREADY installed in your charging/electrical system.



I helped the kid put it in and visualy saw everything come together the right way. It stabalized the idle. And wasnt struggling when headlights were put on. So, yes... i did
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