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Hey all,

I'm completely new to this honda tuner scene.. Have been doing tons of research on different cars (civics, 'ludes, etc...) trying to find one that best fits what I am looking for. Overall, It's down to a eg series hatch ('92-'95) or a 4th gen 'lude.

NOW! I am not trying to sit here and argue over whether to get a lude or a hatch... This isn't the place. Strictly am telling you where I am coming from.

I have found a local 'lude that the owner will possibly sell. it has 199,991k on the speedo, orig. engine, etc. Stock (so far as I can tell, details are vague at this point as the owner had very little time to talk to me). It IS a 5spd... Has rust on both rear wheelwells, bottom corner of pass. side door, and little bits on the top of the sunroof.

NOW, as of right now, this is literally all I know. The owner is going to give me a call in the next day or so and I plan to get more information then. My question (with more to come, I'm sure) is this 'lude even worth my time with this many miles on the odo?


I'm located in State College, PA. Ludes are real rare around here. Only two on the road that I know of, and one is boosted and swapped to produce an estimate 520whp. I'm going to try and get more information on this car for the time being. I only need the engine to last me two years of DD driving before I have the money to do a JDM h22a swap.

ALSO... I'm not too sure on the year to be honest. Any way of telling from the exterior/what you can see through the windows? All I've been able to do is examine the outside, see mileage, and give him my phone number. I have a feeling the owner would let it go for reasonably cheap if I decide to get serious (or he ever calls me)


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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

welcome, did you post in the new member area, im sure someone will move it if not, i would ask the guy your buying the lude from, for all of his matainance records, to see when the T belt was done, oil changes, stuff like that, have you taken it for a test ride?
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

I have not posted there strictly because I wanted to have the thread here so that it would be exposed to people who know lots about 4th gen's. I want to make sure I am hitting every big part in knowing what I am getting into with these cars.. IE. What commonly goes wrong, if it's even worth it for a car with almost 200k on the engine, etc...

I can post there too, if needed. But I'd like the thread to stay here....
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

well I'm going to make this short b/c I dont feel like typing a lot.

look into the back seat, if the center divider is a full armrest its a 92-93 if its more of a center seat its 94-96. I think some guy had 260k miles on here on his h23, if thats the motor it has. If its the f22, it'll last forever. Its the accord motor, and those, along with those crappy d15's that come in old civics like ef/eg hatches can take a beating

If the car has been properly maintained it could last you till 300k or more. Its a honda. If it hasnt been beaten on, and its been maintained it'll be awhile before it dies.
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

So it is definitally a 92-93 going by what you described. I'm trying to get more infromation from the owner, but he has yet to call me back. grr...

thanks for the info!
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

well that center armrest in the rear to determine the 92-92 isn't entirely correct. my 93 si doesn't have the sex blocker.
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

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well that center armrest in the rear to determine the 92-92 isn't entirely correct. my 93 si doesn't have the sex blocker.
My fault. Thanks for correcting me.

A better bet would be to check the ebrake then, if its on the driver side its a 94-96, if its 92-93 it'll be on the passenger side. This could be wrong b/c there is a DIY to change it from 92-93, to 94-96, but its not common at all. especially for a prelude thats stock otherwise.
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

yea^..im pretty sure that ONLY the 92 came with the sex blocker, i could be wrong tho.. but the 93 had this

before you buy it, ask him to let you jack up the car and if he lets you, shake the wheels and see if any tie rods or bearings are loose. also check the axle boots and ask him if he knows when the timing belt was changed last.
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

OKAY!! I got tons more information on it.

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Hi, I got a message when I returned from Chicago that you had stopped
to ask about the prelude. Sorry for the delay I've been catching up
with all the missed emails/calls/classwork.

The information I can give you is it's a 92 si, with a 93/94 j-spec
v-tec motor installed which has roughly 70k miles on it total from the
mileage I was told(50k) when I bought the engine. The car has 199,901
miles on it as of last night. It is a 5spd, and the oil always changed
by 3k miles. All fluids were replaced when the engine was changed in
05.

The bad:
As you could see there's some rust on it, I'm in the process of
repairing it. The car puffs a little blue smoke when it starts up and
the first stop at a stop sign or 2 but nothing I've been close to
worrying about. Right now I/m running a lighter oil in it so if I
would increase the viscosity it would probably be just fine. The rear
antenna doesn't go up and down anymore. When I bought it it was bent
at the top and I unplugged the motor, It can be reconnected and work
part way. The tires are about half way through their life cycle, I
have winter treads on now and 2 summer treads from last year that are
good for a season still.

The good/non stock/replaced recently:
The car has a 2inch drop coil overs skunk2 and new KYB suspension as
of 05. The car also has an AEM V2 intakeas of 07, and MSD wires as of
05. it has a header on it, i forget the name of it and a custom
exhaust, i replaced the muffler last year and a new tip could be
welded on. There is a 10 inch sub and small 400 watt amp in the car.
The interior is exactly how it was when I bought it. I do my best to
keep the interior in the best condition possible. I also have a set of
18" in HP rims that will fit the car, I just never put them on. I also
have some extra parts: an extra power steering pump, alternator, and
motor mounts, as well as a wiring harness form the h23 that was
pulled. It has a 6 cd changer in it and the stock head unit. It has a
new fuel pump as of 07, and new distributor rotor as of 07. The Timing
belt was installed roughly 20k miles ago in 05 when I replaced the
engine. I added bb4 headlights(1 piece) and the white front turn
signal light covers also in 05. The car also has a Neuspeed front
sway-bar that has the 2 mounting point bracket instead of the typical
single point, also added in 05. I have Brembo drilled/slotted front
rotors and stock rears, the Brembos and front pads were put on in 05
and the stock rear rotors and pads were put on in July.

The car has turned into a semi commuter (I drive it around twice a
week) with the hopes of building it into more of a weekend SCCA car
eventually. I've never raced it as of yet, my buddies and I share a
different car we use currently. I don't really have a selling price, I
haven't really thought about it. Plus the price with or without the
parts/wheels will vary of course. I guess the only thing I can say is
make an offer that I can think about, and if you want to stop by to
look at it closer, etc feel free to send me an email/call me. I'm normally at work or class, so if I don't answer just
leave a message with your name/number again. I believe that covers
everything. If I think of anything that I forgot I will let you know.
Thanks for your time and interest.

- Mike
So... Going by that, what would be a solid offer?

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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

ALSO... Please comment on anything in the response he gave me, as to good notes, bad notes. And by j-spec v-tec motor I'm assuming he means a jdm h22a? AKA top dawg with these cars correct? What could be causing the blue smoke other than worn piston-rings?
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Re: Newbie Here!! Need some advice on a local buy...

sounds like hes honest and he used high quality aftermarket parts...the blue smoke and the rust are the only bad things that i recall from the message. id say go look at it, take some pics, and then post them here. that would help people help you come up with an offer price. and also do what i said in my last post
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if there is smoke coming out it could mean the motor is bad ir it is burning oil. i would have a shop inspect it for you before you buy it because it could be a serous problem
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