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Yet I still have questions...

As I posted before, I am still in the process of swapping out my h23+auto combination in trade of an h22+5sp combo...i've gotten the old motor out and the new one in. Everything regarding the actual 5sp swap is hooked up and good to go. The engine and transmission are in but not much is connected. I have the harness wired up to what fits what but I really have no idea as to what connectors go where because i was in a rush and i didn't number them but I'm sure if I knew what connectors went to my automatic tranny i could isolate those and match the rest of the connectors from there...my question is if there is anyone that knows these connectors well and where they should go or anyone that is able to take pictures of these connectors on the engine? In my stupidity, I never purchased a helm's manual thinking i could do the swap without being careless so now I'm also unsure of my vacuum lines...I'm sure in this case, a picture is worth a thousand words so if anyone has any pictures of their manifold and would like to share them that'd be great as well...

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Re: Yet I still have questions...

http://downloads.hondatech.info/Auto...e%20Manual.zip





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Re: Yet I still have questions...

yea i've downloaded that manual and have it for reference i'm just unsure how the connectors and some of the wiring reads...i'm sure i can figure out the vacuum lines tho
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Re: Yet I still have questions...

Problem: I have little knowledge about the oil factor in turbo builds but yesterday I relooked over my H22 motor and saw oil return lines right below the oil filter. It had an adapter and two lines running out of it. I AM NOT RUNNING TURBO. Someone informed me that you have to drill a hole into the block to run the oil return lines? I've researched but found nothing, anyone have any suggestions?
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are you talking about a sandwich plate or just a hole below the filter with a line running out of it. cuz either way those are not return lines. the hole below it is for where the oil pressure sensor would go or it could have been remove to run a feed line....since you dont need a feed line you can cap it or put in a oil pressure gauge. (highly recommended)
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: ) that makes sense now, thank you so much because I had no clue what that was. So basically, the stock sensor is a gauge just for the ECU to pop a code when oil pressure isn't right?! and then a mechanical oil pressure gauge would involve just adding in the device to measure it while interchanging the supplied adapters and lines for the most part? Did you use a tutorial to hook yours up?
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that sensor is a HUGE waste dont even bother putting it back cuz by time it flashes low pressure its too late most of the time.

but no i didnt use a tutorial but it is fairly easy. when you buy the gauge it pretty much comes with everything needed. the only thing needed is a knife and teflon tape.

just remove the line and use that spot to hook up the mechanical one.(thats what i did) most all gauges come with instructions but if you got any questions let me know.
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heres the old way i had it hooked up to keep the stock sensor but it started leaking cuz i had much weight for the fitting to support.

so instead i took out the "T" (circled in yellow) and just hook up the line (circled in red) strait to the block. after connected to the block it connects the exact same way into the back of the gauge. the threads are the same so it just screws in.
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Re: Yet I still have questions...

mann you've really made my day/night because this is the last little thing in my swap that has made hesitate to try to start it...I think the engine has it hooked up for the gauge but without the actual gauge if I can remember correctly based on your picture. So the stock sensor isn't worth it? I read also that if you hooked the gauge straight to the block it'll go in but strip your block at the same time because the piece that goes to your block is NPT and you'll need a metric convertor to make it BSPT-although they're both 1/8"? Maybe I'm making things complicated and should just get the gauge and put her in, lol
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I'll have pics as soon as everything is up and running right
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well i have had zero issues with running it strait into the block from the gauge just take a pic of what you did if you are not sure and me or someone will let you know. just make sure you teflon tape everything so it dont leak.
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its highly NOT recommended to run the gauge/T like john has it pictured, the first reason he already figured out why. second reason being MANY people have had problems with the Tee snapping off when revving the motor.
but like he said just run a braided stainless line off the block to the Tee, and you shouldn't have a problem. :fing02:


even tho the stock oil gauge isn't TOO accurate or reliable, you shouldn't NOT hook it up just for that reason. better to be safe than sorry right?
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thats why i got rid of the T cuz i started leaking and when i took it off i could see it cracking.

i wasn't meaning not hook it up at all. i was meaning if you put a aftermarket gauge then i wouldnt worry about it. gotta have something
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Re: Yet I still have questions...

thanks, i just ordered an autometer gauge so i'll be hooking that up as soon as it comes in...i'm trying to think of all the questions i can before i make the journey back up to work on the lude. Oh yeah, I'm not sure how many hoses run off manual transmission radiators but I have an automatic transmission radiator and I think it might have two extra hoses at the bottom for an in/out cooling system of the automatic transmission fluid I'm not sure if I stand correct on the two hoses' function. Once again, they're two hoses located at the bottom of the radiator...

This might be a stupid question to ask but I haven't begun to put the axles back in quite yet but have no idea how I'll go about doing this without damaging the boots. Do you just shove them in there?

Anyone have any pics of their vacuum lines/intake manifold so I can double-check mine?
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yup auto's and manuals got diff radiators, since the auto's are cooled by coolant (if i'm not mistaken). if you can figure out how to plug up the holes on the auto rad, do that. if not, you gotta get a manual rad.

and the axles go in a lil easier than they come out. make sure the circlip is centered around the axle and not skewed preventing you from shoving the axle in.

there should be a vacuum diagram on the sticker under the hood. if for some reason you don't have that sticker anymore, its in the manual that i posted.
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Re: Yet I still have questions...

okay, well I'm going to try to figure out something with the radiator...

Are you referring to the axle ring? I remember it being really difficult to get the axles in the tranny of my friend's accord for some reason just because it was awkward.

sweet, that would really help me out since I can't see the manual when printed out and I don't have one...never thought about that, lol thanks

that should be all my main concerns for now, i'm hoping the wiring is correct on a prayer :) not sure about the connectors still...
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the connectors are self-explanatory, you can only plug them into their correct receiving connector since its not possible to plug them into the wrong one.


for the service manual i posted, since i don't feel like print screening and saving the pic to my p-bucket, i'll just tell you its on page 267, which is section 11-20.
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niceee, made alot of progress last night got all the suspension together and there's only a few connectors and hoses to hook up as well as the intake box...
spent most of the time trying to bleed the clutch and still failed to do so. I don't think I have leaks cuz I'm not seeing any brake fluid coming out anywhere but I still don't get pressure and I'm losing fluid in the clutch reservoir? wth could be happening? the clutch pedal moves in two positions, fully extended and to the floor with no play or pressure in between.
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hmmm not sure if our throw out bearings are a push or pull design. IF IF IF IF IF we have a pull design.. then i have an idea.

Correct me if im wrong, but your saying when your clutch pedal is all the way to the floor, is that when you have the bleeder valve on the slave opened? And it wont go to the floor when its closed? LMK
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the clutch pedal has no pressure at all when the bleeder valve is closed or open...i'm converting from auto to 5speed so this is my first time trying out all the components. I've tried bleeding the clutch with the bleeder valve closed and open but it has no effect, but I still lose brake fluid in the clutch reservoir? The clutch pedal interlocks in two posititions; all the way to the floor or fully extended. It's not locked up, it just has no pressure between these positions....and kind of jumps from full extension to the floor due to the spring. I'm trying to fix this problem so I can have pressure. Also, i'm not sure if it's a push or pull design
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im almost positive is a push design, so we can disregard my idea. if your loosing fluid, it has to be going somewhere. Is anything coming out of the slave bleeder valve? you should be able to at least feel air coming out
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I've checked the master and slvae cylinders, the clutch dampener, and the reservoir. None of them are leeking? that's so weird to me because the lines should only take about a reservoir full of fluid, if that? but i've gone through at least four or five already
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Re: Yet I still have questions...

you would be really surprised how much fluid it takes to run the lines. did you check under the dash behind the clutch pedal to see if its leaking
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Re: Yet I still have questions...

sure haven't...i guess I'll double-check and give everything another try when I head back up there to work on it Tuesday. I'm starting to miss my baby it's been over two months since I drove her : ( At least i can say I did the engine swap by myself...i'll definitely be sure to label things and buy a manual next time (sigh)
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