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H22A Octane of Gas??

Ok, this Prelude I'm about to buy has the H22A in it. From the research that I've done, i can see it has a 10.6-11:1 compression ratio (giving that it IS the JDM motor). The USDM H22A has a 10:1 compression ratio from what I have seen The current owner says that he runs 93 only and 87 will make it knock. I'm not complaining about the gas, but would it be safe to run 89 in it? Just curious.

Also, I work at Advance Auto and there is a special on the Royal Purple so I'm probably gonna run that in it. Anyone disagree there?
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

Technically you can run it in there, but he's right, put 93. There's been several people with stock to semi-stock H22's who ran lower grade fuel and not only is it bad for the engine, it makes it get worse fuel mileage and they came out cheaper by buying the 93, and like I said, it's obviously safer too.
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

you don't want knock so run 93
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

Kk. What about the Royal Purple? Anyone use that in their Lude before?? Overkill or good idea? I know it's a good oil.
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

I'd say it's an overkill. I'll only run that in a boosted car but thats my preference
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

But it's $30 for the filter and 5qts of oil!!! It can't hurt :noidea: lol
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

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Technically you can run it in there, but he's right, put 93. There's been several people with stock to semi-stock H22's who ran lower grade fuel and not only is it bad for the engine, it makes it get worse fuel mileage and they came out cheaper by buying the 93, and like I said, it's obviously safer too.

Agreed, When i run lower grade fuel i have a mojr decrese in preformance,
Also, the knocking is from your motor not getting the higher Explosion needed to bring the pistion around again
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

93 octane no knock... wait I said that already lol
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

Now how bout this. Like Wal-mart gas, Murphy only sells 87 becuase "supposedly" there is a shortage in 89 and 93. Will octane boost get the hold off on the burn if I HAVE to buy 87?? I wouldn't do that anyways because 12 gal of 87 + octane boost > 12 Gal of 93 octane. Not economical becuase the octane boost is so expensive. That's just a scenario if they "run out" of 93 in my area. I hate political bullcrap.

Because I know that the main difference in 87 89 and 93 are their burn points and ability to burn under different compressions. Which is why 87 pre-detonates in high compression engines.
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

so if you know that running 87 is bad and you basically answered your own questions. what are you questioning? lol

you can run 87 but it's not good. if there is a gas shortage then you can only buy what's available anyways right?
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

Is it safe to use octane booster with 93 octane. I use only shell v-power. No other premium ive tried feels as good. But yeah will it hurt it??
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

There's not many octane boosters that do anything. I'm like you si96lude, I only use vPower. The problem with octane boosters is that they use MMT as a means for raising the octane level. A little is okay but if you use it a lot, it's been know to screw with sensors and combustion.
So unless you're going to the track and you have any internal work or boost, you're best off to use 93. Again, it's okay from time to time. I don't recommend it at all unless putting it in the day before you go to the track, otherwise, there's no alternative to the real deal.
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Yeah that what i was thinking. I always thought that stuff was just gas in a bottle. But if i cant make it to the nearest shell station, i just stop and put like 4 bucks in her, and get to shell and fill her up.
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

I rarely get below half a tank, that way it's not as painful when I put in $30 and have a full tank, lol.

About every oil change, I run STP fuel injector cleaner and it really helps.

I know an idiot who had an FC RX-7, and he put in 8 bottles of NOS octane booster. Needless to say, the rotor in the motor went ZOOM ZOOM BOOOOOOOOM!
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I would only use it when you go to the track.


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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

here in california we only have up to 91 octane... cuz of emissions regulations and stuff, it should be good enough for my JDM h22 right?
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

V-Power ftw dood. Just use 93 octane, you will be much better off in the long run, and you won't have to worry about it every time you drive your car. I know one time all the Shell stations in my area were out of 93 octane so I had to get 91 octane from BP and I was nervous driving around with that in my tank lol.
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Yeah, 91 is perfectly okay.

Shell and Chevron use some extra detergents in the fuels that BP doesn't, along with all the off-brand fuels. I'm trying to find an article I read a while back about that. It was some kind of better fuel agreement that some companies signed and others didn't, like BP and I think Exxon-Mobil didn't ether, but on the flip side, Chevron has a pending lawsuit for gross human rights violations in Ecuador and Shell, despite their subliminal advertising, Shell has been selling off their solar energy products while investing more into fossil fuels.
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I try to use BP fuels when i can but anywhere i go i always use 93 exspeshally since a lot of people around here have been getting into bad gas, i just see less of a chance of getting watered down gas if you're buying 93 because more people are running low grade so thats the one they need to water down to get more of

but like i said i try to always fill up a BP mainly because on my brother's 07 GT mustang it says BP fuels are recomended and if ford trusts it enough then so do I
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Is it safe to use octane booster with 93 octane. I use only shell v-power. No other premium ive tried feels as good. But yeah will it hurt it??
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I try to use BP fuels when i can but anywhere i go i always use 93 exspeshally since a lot of people around here have been getting into bad gas, i just see less of a chance of getting watered down gas if you're buying 93 because more people are running low grade so thats the one they need to water down to get more of

but like i said i try to always fill up a BP mainly because on my brother's 07 GT mustang it says BP fuels are recomended and if ford trusts it enough then so do I
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Yeah, 91 is perfectly okay.

Shell and Chevron use some extra detergents in the fuels that BP doesn't, along with all the off-brand fuels. I'm trying to find an article I read a while back about that. It was some kind of better fuel agreement that some companies signed and others didn't, like BP and I think Exxon-Mobil didn't ether, but on the flip side, Chevron has a pending lawsuit for gross human rights violations in Ecuador and Shell, despite their subliminal advertising, Shell has been selling off their solar energy products while investing more into fossil fuels.
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I've been a Chevron follower forever! welll.. for at least 10 years anyways... I Allways used their premium with techron (91 Octane max) thought I was doing my car right and protecting it. After reading a BUNCh of posts about octane ratings, etc. I decided to give shell a try... two tanks now and I HONESTLY am amazed at the difference. The lude is MADE to run the 94 Octane V-Power-- Gawd dang, I can honestly say my car DOES run better!!!

oh ya, and I jumped up to 23 MPG... usually was getting 19-20 if I was "good."
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Re: H22A Octane of Gas??

Shell is the best the ads you see about then cleaning the engine and all that jazz are true. BP would be next in line then use some stuff in the gas but not much. To bad for me all the shell's in Athens as well as a lot of other places have switched to 10%(why the new ford gas caps says to use BP) ethanol BS so i have to go to BP now.
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