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Old 08-04-2008, 05:42 PM
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Putting it together!

First I'll introduce myself real quick, I'm 17 my name is Joseph and I live in San Jose California.

So I have a few questions and really hope you guys can help me, I'm tired of driving around my 1988 Honda and I have some money saved up from working. I really want to drive a 92-96 prelude but all the "nice" ones around my area are all at least $3500 and up, I say "NICE" meaning a good body, average miles, and clean title. I only have about $2100 dollars saved up so buying a good looking one is out of the question.

So here is the deal:

SITUATION: Looking online for a prelude I came across a 1992 prelude that looked good and had a clean body, so I go and check it out and the motor is blown, explaining the price. Just talking I told the guy I'd give him $900 dollars since its not running. So the motor is blown but the body is REALLY clean.

Question: Should I buy the shell, I figure I can pick up a motor for sure with the $1200 dollars I have left. I would like the H22A obviously since it is V-TEC and has more Horse power. But I know that the V-TEC didn't come out in Preludes until 1993. Correct?

with that said would there be any complications with a H22, obviously having to have come from at least 1993 to 1996 motor going into a 1992 shell. I mean anything you can think of?

also which transmissions would work with the motor?

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Re: Putting it together!

You can easily swap an h22 in your 92 shell you're thinking about purchasing, it's been done and a lot of people do it


You can also check out this thread for what transmission you want to mate the h22 to -
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totally doable. there's a guy in fairfield who was parting out a vtec on bayareaprelude.com. i got my vtec cluster off of him back in december. search around on that site... maybe you'll run into him. i forget his name.
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Re: Putting it together!

By the way, what is the redline for the S, SI, and V-TEC?

say that the car's shell is a S or SI version, and I get the H22, would I need a new cluster?





I also see that someone else asked pretty much the same thing, it looks like they are giving him a lot of info, I think I can check that one for some more info!

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Re: Putting it together!

check out bayareaprelude.com. There a lot peeps selling there car, or try bay area craigslist for preludes.

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welcome to PZ and its VTEC.. alot of people think its v-technology because of the way we say it (sorta like eco-tec)
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check out bayareaprelude.com. There a lot peeps selling there car, or try bay area craigslist for preludes.

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Sadly I have looked and see a lot of great preludes for $3000+, I only have about $2100 =[
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Re: Putting it together!

It's doable but the main problem with the 92's is that VTEC wasn't pre-wired in the harnesses cause it wasn't introduced so there would be more wiring involved.

S and Si- around 6500rpm
VTEC- 7200-7400rpm
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Re: Putting it together!

I have a 92 S with a h22, if your doing it and need some pics ill send them, but the h22 is nice, use the tranny in it, Bolts right up.Yes the vtec would need to be wired up. The only problem i have is a little interferance with hood and the altnator
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Re: Putting it together!

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By the way, what is the redline for the S, SI, and V-TEC?

say that the car's shell is a S or SI version, and I get the H22, would I need a new cluster?

I also see that someone else asked pretty much the same thing, it looks like they are giving him a lot of info, I think I can check that one for some more info!
don't get a new cluster, it is cool as hell to watch the needle move so far into the red... wheee!!!! (check out my sig. link, I have a 92si/h22 swap)

no probs on the swap as said... minus vtec wiring... no big deal.

$900 is a great deal of a clean body... if you lower it you may need to replace all the suspension bushings... I had some issues on sport springs prior to getting polyurethane.
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I have a 92 S with a h22, if your doing it and need some pics ill send them, but the h22 is nice, use the tranny in it, Bolts right up.Yes the vtec would need to be wired up. The only problem i have is a little interferance with hood and the altnator
I was talking to someone with it and he said that he ran the H23 tranny for about 4 months and he said when he did get the h22 tranny it ran he said: "slightly better" think it matters that much?

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don't get a new cluster, it is cool as hell to watch the needle move so far into the red... wheee!!!! (check out my sig. link, I have a 92si/h22 swap)

no probs on the swap as said... minus vtec wiring... no big deal.

$900 is a great deal of a clean body... if you lower it you may need to replace all the suspension bushings... I had some issues on sport springs prior to getting polyurethane.
The only thing that agrivated me about the shell is that the guy has it lowered already on some TIEN's, it dosent look very low and he says its like 1/2 inch in front and 3/4 in the back, I really want mine to sit at stock height, but I guess I can deal with it.



Also for both of you guys do you have a USDM or JDM H22?
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usdm h22a1 has the lowest gear ratios overall (i think 1st-3rd are the same as the jdm h22 trannies)

jdm h22a (lsd and non) have lower 1st-3rd gear than h23a1, but higher 4th and 5th... better initial accel but slightly better mpgs...

example.. my h23a1 ran 3000rpm at 60mph, my JDM h22a (with m2b4 lsd) runs 3000rpm at about 62-63mph...

if the tranny is still good you can save some money using it. I have a chart of gear ratios for all on my other computer.. I will post later.
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usdm h22a1 has the lowest gear ratios overall (i think 1st-3rd are the same as the jdm h22 trannies)

jdm h22a (lsd and non) have lower 1st-3rd gear than h23a1, but higher 4th and 5th... better initial accel but slightly better mpgs...

example.. my h23a1 ran 3000rpm at 60mph, my JDM h22a (with m2b4 lsd) runs 3000rpm at about 62-63mph...

if the tranny is still good you can save some money using it. I have a chart of gear ratios for all on my other computer.. I will post later.

Thanks man, I've gathered a lot of information about the swap and I'm trying to figure out when I talk to whom ever, whether they had the USDM or JDM, I only ask because if I'm going to buy the motor what I should do with each one.

I'm not trying to install any after market parts right now, my biggest concern is to get the the car, get the motor in the car, and get the car to start up and run good.
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one thing i need to mention about usdm vs. jdm for you, especially since you're in cali. if you get someone who knows what they're doing, you can pass smog with a jdm motor. otherwise, they may fail you on the visual. it doesn't mean the jdm motors are illegal in cali. they're fine. i have one, and a bunch of other people have them too. you just need a smog shop that's familiar with them.
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^and no high flow cat, I would imagine...

I think their are 2 tein sports springs.. "h tech" lower about .6", "s tech" lower about 1.1"... that is a pretty subtle drop, but if you are set on stock springs I have some for about $20 bucks plus shipping... hell, I'd take $15. I'd ride on the teins myself... I love my neuspeeds (1.7" drop) and I don't bottom out much.

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yup. no way in hell you'd legally pass smog in cali with a high flow cat.
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