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Did the North American 1988 Honda Prelude have 4ws?

Did the North American 1988 Honda Prelude have 4ws? I was under the impression 4ws started in North America preludes at 89 from what I gathered from the wiki page on 3rd gen.

I really screwed up by not being able to get that $1200 prelude linked here

91 Honda prelude 4WS SI - $1200 with speed sensor and power steering leak

Wish I got that one , but oh well it is gone now unfortunately. the seller doesn't respond at all.

This is the new prelude I am looking at. But I'm confused as to wether or not it is really a 4ws prelude it is a 1988 one.


https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ws...425541515.html

thoughts is this really 4ws?
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Re: Did the North American 1988 Honda Prelude have 4ws?

Absolutely. 4ws was available in all four years that 3rd gens were produced. In N. America this started with the 1988 model year. If you look closely you can see the 4ws badge at the bottom of the b-pillar. The ad says it's all wheel drive though, which is not true. No Prelude was available with all wheel drive.
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Absolutely. 4ws was available in all four years that 3rd gens were produced. In N. America this started with the 1988 model year. If you look closely you can see the 4ws badge at the bottom of the b-pillar. The ad says it's all wheel drive though, which is not true. No Prelude was available with all wheel drive.


damn sorry for the dumb question I had misread the wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_...281987-1991.29

On April 9, 1987, the third-generation Prelude was released in the Japanese domestic market and released later that year worldwide, being an 1988 model in North America. Featuring evolutionary styling from its predecessor, it shared design cues from the Honda NSX that would be introduced later in 1989.

I had remembered the date for the Honda nsx getting released in north America in 1989 and for some reason I incorrectly thought that was the Honda prelude

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Re: Did the North American 1988 Honda Prelude have 4ws?

Yes if you look closely between the windows on the door pillar you can barely make out 4ws badge that let people know that it's a 4 wheel steering model. I bought an 88 4ws last year from craigslist in south LA that has the badges and you can also check the steering wheel because it also say 4 wheel steering. Easy turns all day in one of them. ��
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Re: Did the North American 1988 Honda Prelude have 4ws?

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Yes if you look closely between the windows on the door pillar you can barely make out 4ws badge that let people know that it's a 4 wheel steering model. I bought an 88 4ws last year from craigslist in south LA that has the badges and you can also check the steering wheel because it also say 4 wheel steering. Easy turns all day in one of them. ��
While badges can indicate things about a car, they are not a definitive indication of a car having or not having certain options. Badges are too easy to add or remove. The best way to tell if a car is 4ws is to look for the presence of a rear steering rack under the back of the car.
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While badges can indicate things about a car, they are not a definitive indication of a car having or not having certain options. Badges are too easy to add or remove. The best way to tell if a car is 4ws is to look for the presence of a rear steering rack under the back of the car.
good to know

this is the latest prelude I've been looking at


1988 Honda Prelude S4 Reg Tag: 10/2016

looks like it has the badge on the black part right above the door handle. or at least I see some kind of writing there.
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good to know

this is the latest prelude I've been looking at


1988 Honda Prelude S4 Reg Tag: 10/2016

looks like it has the badge on the black part right above the door handle. or at least I see some kind of writing there.
Yes, that looks like a 4ws badge. I saw it initially in your first post. In the US, there were two possible b-pillar badges that Honda placed there. One said 4ws and the other said ALB (Anti-Lock Brakes).

Because the front wheels are turned to the left far enough, you can actually tell that that car is 4ws if you look closely at the right rear tire in the middle picture. It appears that the rear wheel is turned slightly to the right. I used to park that way on purpose to see what kind of reactions I would hear from people. It's funny how many people commented that I needed to fix my car because the rear wheels are broken.
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Re: Did the North American 1988 Honda Prelude have 4ws?

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good to know

this is the latest prelude I've been looking at


1988 Honda Prelude S4 Reg Tag: 10/2016

looks like it has the badge on the black part right above the door handle. or at least I see some kind of writing there.

This seller is an idiot. He calls it an "S4" and states that it is 4wd on the right, and AWD in the post body, neither of which was ever an option. The Automatic transmission models did have an S4 button to put the trans in sport mode, but he also states it's a manual transmission. Regardless, there is no S4 trim line. Maybe you can use his stunning ignorance to your advantage, or maybe I just nit-pic too much.
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Re: Did the North American 1988 Honda Prelude have 4ws?

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This seller is an idiot. He calls it an "S4" and states that it is 4wd on the right, and AWD in the post body, neither of which was ever an option. The Automatic transmission models did have an S4 button to put the trans in sport mode, but he also states it's a manual transmission. Regardless, there is no S4 trim line. Maybe you can use his stunning ignorance to your advantage, or maybe I just nit-pic too much.
It didn't make a whole lot of sense and the owner is a female.

Here is the other 4ws prelude i'm looking at and its a bit cheaper.

89 honda prelude

still on the 3rd gen 4ws hunt!
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It didn't make a whole lot of sense and the owner is a female.

Here is the other 4ws prelude i'm looking at and its a bit cheaper.

89 honda prelude

still on the 3rd gen 4ws hunt!
Nice 3rd gen (ignoring the right tail light) but what makes you think that one is 4ws? The seller doesn't say anything about that in the ad, and there is no reason to believe that it is from looking at the pictures.
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Nice 3rd gen (ignoring the right tail light) but what makes you think that one is 4ws? The seller doesn't say anything about that in the ad, and there is no reason to believe that it is from looking at the pictures.
Ive noticed sometimes the sellers don't write 4ws instead they write all wheel drive awd all wheel steering aws full wheel steeing fws

I've seen more than one prelude that was 4ws but not precisely listed as such because the 4ws term got misrepresented

that one in the link already sold too argh


Just got off the phone with the owner of this one

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...425541515.html

argh

has 340k miles. she says it can run hot sometimes. check engine light comes on, and when she turns the car off the fan will sometimes stay on. also the front left tire had a blow out on the road and it took off the front left fender, which got reattached with zip ties.

I think I might have to pass on this one , but would appreciate any thoughts. it is a nice looking prelude

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Ive noticed sometimes the sellers don't write 4ws instead they write all wheel drive awd all wheel steering aws full wheel steeing fws

I've seen more than one prelude that was 4ws but not precisely listed as such because the 4ws term got misrepresented

that one in the link already sold too argh
I agree that some sellers might accidentally do that. But the ad you linked didn't say all wheel drive, awd, fws, aws, or full wheel steering. It only said fwd which is front wheel drive. I seriously doubt it had 4ws.

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Just got off the phone with the owner of this one

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...425541515.html

argh

has 340k miles. she says it can run hot sometimes. check engine light comes on, and when she turns the car off the fan will sometimes stay on. also the front left tire had a blow out on the road and it took off the front left fender, which got reattached with zip ties.

I think I might have to pass on this one , but would appreciate any thoughts. it is a nice looking prelude
This link is for the same car as the link you had in your first post. I wouldn't pay $2300 for it if it's got a history of overheating, and the cel comes on.
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