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Old 11-10-2007, 10:54 PM
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*****The Ultimate Shocks & Springs thread*****

So here's a list of shocks and springs for our Preludes, 1988-1991.
*note: there is no difference between 4ws and regular 2ws models.

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SPRINGS:

Neuspeed SPORT springs, lowers cars 1.8" inches all around
Kuruma Motor sports - $149.
Import Auto Performance - $139.
EAutoworks - $199.
Autocarparts - $179.
Andy's Autosport - $199
Import Horizon - $147.
Motorweb - $203.97
Racing works.com - $149.96


Neuspeed RACE springs, lowers car 2.25" in front, 2" in rear
Autoaccessorystore.com - $193.96
Andy's autosport.com - $199.
Active autoparts - $207.23
E Autoworks - $199.95
Import Horizon - $147.
Nopi online -208.12

H&R SPORT springs, lowers car 1.8" in front, 1.7" in rear:
Andy's Autosport - $265.
HopUp Racing - $259.
Autocarparts.com - $299.
Drivewerks - $199.20
Pilicar - $149
Kurumu motoring - $149.
Tirerack - $187.

H&R RACE springs, lowers car 2.25" front, 2" rear
HopUp racing - $259.
Andy's auto sport - $265.
Autoaccessorystore - $220.54
Autocarparts - $198.84
Tirerack - $205.

Intrax lowering springs, lowers car 1.7" front, 1.7" rear
SFX performance - $207.35
Nopi online - $258.38

Eibach pro kit, lowers car 1.5" all around
IRP - $220.11
Race inspired - $210.54
Nopi online -$234.97
Modacar - $215.00
Lighting motorsports - $210.54
E autoworks - $259.95
Hopup Racing - $229.

Ground Control coilovers
E Autoworks - $322.25
Autocarparts - $322.02
Lighting motorsports - $339.
Kuruma Motoring - $299

Suspension Techniques - lowers car 1" all around
Nopi online - $168.81
Performance center - $181.81
Autodirectsave - $229.

B&G springs, lowers car 1.5" inches all around
Autopartswarehouse - $210.95
Autocarparts - $233.10

OEM Springs/Coil
ProStreetonline - $86.44
MOOG - 83.91




Ingalls camber correction kit
Tirerack - $33. each
Import Auto Performance - $65.



SHOCKS

KYB
Autoparts warehouse - $54.47
Race pages - $57.47
Tirerack - $42.
Car-stuff - $62.18

Monroe
Autoparts warehouse - $54.09
Racepages - $50.08
Shock warehouse - $90.64(for 2)
Car-stuff - $54.75


Tokico HP's(Blues)
Autoparts warehouse - $72.60
Autocarparts - $406.13 set
Statracing - $57.92
Prostreet online -$341.06
Performance mania - $199 set of four!
Kid Imports - $63.08
RaceZero - $60.20
JDM instock - $230.
Performance mania - $199
Options Auto - $84.59


Tokico handling kit - springs & shocks, lowers car 1-1.5 inch(this is not clear)
Statracing - $341.06
Car-stuff - $405.70
E Autoworks - $424.
Partstrain - $378.95
ERZ Performance - $299.
Racing lab - $395.


Koni Yellow(F) & Red(R)
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REMEMBER! CALL or EMAIL THESE STORES BEFORE PLACING AN ORDER!!!!!

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Very helpful thread. Should be stickied, will help alot of people.
Man I wish I could remember the site I found koni reds for our car and yellows as well. I'll keep looking for the benefit of others.

EDIT: Here's the link for koni yellows(f), http://www.classicgarage.com/hoprfrkoshp.html
can't find rears.
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Very helpful thread. Should be stickied, will help alot of people.
Man I wish I could remember the site I found koni reds for our car and yellows as well. I'll keep looking for the benefit of others.

EDIT: Here's the link for koni yellows(f), http://www.classicgarage.com/hoprfrkoshp.html
can't find rears.
Wow $200. are they good then?

Anyway I just wanted to say this should be stickied.

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koni yellows are adjustable I believe as tociko blues are not.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
It's about the only place you can find koni's for our car so if you wnt them you have to pay the price.
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I have the tokico blues w/neuspeed sports and my lude is quite low. There is no way I would want the neuspeed race springs if the drop is lower!
koni's are great particularly if they are adjustable.
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classicgarage.com for the red and yellows...

http://store.classicgarage.com/prelude1.html

Call first (just in case)
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classicgarage.com for the red and yellows...

http://store.classicgarage.com/prelude1.html

Call first (just in case)
I went on the website and I think they only carry the fronts...do you know where I can get the rears?
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I went on the website and I think they only carry the fronts...do you know where I can get the rears?

that's why i said call first. they might not have any, or they might have both sets. that website is a call ahead before ordering (as not to get disappointed). they'll even call you back if they cant find them in the first place.

I don't know if Brian out this thread up but... for the 3rd gens these are more awsome shocks (no need to adjust them)

http://www.nyxracing.com/suspension-...4208_4505.html

just enter your make and model...

I'll keep looking
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I too wonder how each of these stacks up against the other. Would like to see a real poll on this rather than the - Ive heard of Tokico Blues so I vote them as the best.
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Fulladjustable suspension/coilover kit... I used to have the koni reds and yellows and the GC kit on one prelude. that is not cheap. JIC, sure they'll make one for you. for about 1400 dollars. Unless you're auto-crossing, Very moot point. spend the money on the lesser setup and get superpros bushings and the Orijins...

Personally, The ground controls and the Bilstein are the best (because you can still get them) and the most expensive. Everything else is daily driver improvements. AND RACING SPEC KITS COST MORE THAN THE PRELUDE

Now from best to worse(DIY)
GC+Koni adj (anywhere from stock and stock height to 3.5 "drop to HARD)
GC+Bilstein(only the coilovers are adjustable, HARD setting)
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GC+STOCK OR MONROES

The Various Spring setups are more complicated (since you can't Adjust them)
But the best bang for your buck are the KYB and the Suspension techniques 1" drop. Takes away the wheel gap, Sags to 1.5"drop, and Still give a bump to your handling. All the other spring kits are for various user wants. For auto crossing, the tokico kit (springs and shocks) covers alot of bases, and you can still drive the car to the event. Never did any of those, So I cant tell you.

If you live in NY, there are no smooth roads, everything is potholed or in repair, so you gotta drive like you had a few brews and a couple of hits(ganja powah) to preserve the underside of your car.

Driveways are a pain too. The kits are better than stock but the travel is there at 5-10 MPH so there's a good chance you're raping your front bumper or header pipes. As an old fart learning from my youthful ways, unless you really really really REALLY need that dropped look, keep it tame. and you won't be seing no Psychaitrist about the "bottom out flinches" you now make everytime you see a speed bump, or a pothole, or let your boy drive your Lude... RIGHT BRIAN?
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sustec bought out tanabe at least here in the us. Might as well include the ebay zenn springs...
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Question for everyone...I hear all this talk of bump stops...are they required when doing shocks and springs?
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I was looking on the site linked for the Bilstein for my car which is a 90si and it says they will only fit a 91? I thought they were the same or wont they fit? Sorry for the newb question I am just new to Preludes thanks for the help.
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Sorry Guys, been busy. Dans90Ludesi The shocks and struts are all the same for the third gen. There are no difference. Bump stops... Very tactical question. Depends on who you listen to. Bump stops are needed in order to keep the shocks from damaging the towers, and bottoming out your car. 90% of the time you'll need to shave it down to exact spec because the excess portion will wind up deforming the bump stop and render it useless... But (HUGE but) if the bump stop is shaved to agressively, then what was the point...

Here's some pretty good rules of thumb for bumpstops:

1.Keep the diameter of the bump stop relatively close to the shock cylinder (the fatter end) (usually the bumpstop that came with the strut or shock is there already)
2.Keep the bumpstop proportional to the drop you put on the car.
1/4" for every inch you drop the car.
Example1:you drop the car 3 inches, shape up the bumpstop so it sits flush against the strut/shock and the upper shock mount.(the bumpstops will be the only buffer you got)
Example2:you drop the car 1", you take off 1/4" so that you have a secondary support to the spring, in case you didn't see that speed bump. and of course to enjoy the lower stance.
Example 3: no drop (about 2.5 inch gap from fender to wheel) You don't need a Bumpstop, but, Having one there 1" tall is a good safety measure.

You can try other variations, But for the sake of argument, IF you get Ground controls, You need a bumpstop average height of 2 inches shaved top and bottom flat. The adjustibilty of these coilovers requires the bumpstop of some significance (Energy suspension makes poly-u bumpstops) or just be kind to the ones that come with your shock and struts... that's your call. You can also try bump stops from a heavier car (like an accord wagon, odyssey) They usually are cheaper and are more aggressive.

These are some guidlines so you don't encounter a tragedy. You need to Dial-in your suspension to your liking And to what your setup is, not to mention take into account spring sag and shock failure, and wheel camber/toe.
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update: Even with the part numbers... (used to have koni's at all coners)
can't find the reds and yellows online.

The fate of the 3rd gen prelude. (koni groupbuy anyone?)
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Fulladjustable suspension/coilover kit... I used to have the koni reds and yellows and the GC kit on one prelude. that is not cheap. JIC, sure they'll make one for you. for about 1400 dollars. Unless you're auto-crossing, Very moot point. spend the money on the lesser setup and get superpros bushings and the Orijins...

Personally, The ground controls and the Bilstein are the best (because you can still get them) and the most expensive. Everything else is daily driver improvements. AND RACING SPEC KITS COST MORE THAN THE PRELUDE

Now from best to worse(DIY)
GC+Koni adj (anywhere from stock and stock height to 3.5 "drop to HARD)
GC+Bilstein(only the coilovers are adjustable, HARD setting)
GC+KYB
GC+Tokico
GC+STOCK OR MONROES

The Various Spring setups are more complicated (since you can't Adjust them)
But the best bang for your buck are the KYB and the Suspension techniques 1" drop. Takes away the wheel gap, Sags to 1.5"drop, and Still give a bump to your handling. All the other spring kits are for various user wants. For auto crossing, the tokico kit (springs and shocks) covers alot of bases, and you can still drive the car to the event. Never did any of those, So I cant tell you.

If you live in NY, there are no smooth roads, everything is potholed or in repair, so you gotta drive like you had a few brews and a couple of hits(ganja powah) to preserve the underside of your car.

Driveways are a pain too. The kits are better than stock but the travel is there at 5-10 MPH so there's a good chance you're raping your front bumper or header pipes. As an old fart learning from my youthful ways, unless you really really really REALLY need that dropped look, keep it tame. and you won't be seing no Psychaitrist about the "bottom out flinches" you now make everytime you see a speed bump, or a pothole, or let your boy drive your Lude... RIGHT BRIAN?
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Sorry Guys, been busy. Dans90Ludesi The shocks and struts are all the same for the third gen. There are no difference. Bump stops... Very tactical question. Depends on who you listen to. Bump stops are needed in order to keep the shocks from damaging the towers, and bottoming out your car. 90% of the time you'll need to shave it down to exact spec because the excess portion will wind up deforming the bump stop and render it useless... But (HUGE but) if the bump stop is shaved to agressively, then what was the point...

Here's some pretty good rules of thumb for bumpstops:

1.Keep the diameter of the bump stop relatively close to the shock cylinder (the fatter end) (usually the bumpstop that came with the strut or shock is there already)
2.Keep the bumpstop proportional to the drop you put on the car.
1/4" for every inch you drop the car.
Example1:you drop the car 3 inches, shape up the bumpstop so it sits flush against the strut/shock and the upper shock mount.(the bumpstops will be the only buffer you got)
Example2:you drop the car 1", you take off 1/4" so that you have a secondary support to the spring, in case you didn't see that speed bump. and of course to enjoy the lower stance.
Example 3: no drop (about 2.5 inch gap from fender to wheel) You don't need a Bumpstop, but, Having one there 1" tall is a good safety measure.

You can try other variations, But for the sake of argument, IF you get Ground controls, You need a bumpstop average height of 2 inches shaved top and bottom flat. The adjustibilty of these coilovers requires the bumpstop of some significance (Energy suspension makes poly-u bumpstops) or just be kind to the ones that come with your shock and struts... that's your call. You can also try bump stops from a heavier car (like an accord wagon, odyssey) They usually are cheaper and are more aggressive.

These are some guidlines so you don't encounter a tragedy. You need to Dial-in your suspension to your liking And to what your setup is, not to mention take into account spring sag and shock failure, and wheel camber/toe.


Some good information there.


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Okay, so i just got the red Tokico springs yesterday. This is supposed to drop the car 1.2 inches. We'll see...

The blue ones are some ebay coilovers that i never used, just showing them for comparison.
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