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$350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

Hello today at about 10:00am I purchased a 1990 Honda Prelude si for $350. Body is in good shape engine is good. New timing belt with a tune up.


One big issue.... I need a new transmission. Would you consider this a good deal?
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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

if you have the time and means to fix the car it not a bad deal. if you have no idea what you are getting into then yes bad deal
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Shout out to bykfixer..... Not 22. It's year 2015 so unless you own a delorean mcfly that's a 25 year old car.

The car is a project car. I work I go home time is nothing. I have a cousin mechanic and $1500 to invest.....

Now yes people will say why didn't I just buy one with no issues? I wanted to make it my own.

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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

Good score!

But...uh...why the shout out?
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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

No, it's a terrible deal. You should get rid of it immediately. I'll take it off your hands for what you paid for it.

Yes, it's a good deal regardless of whether you have the time and/or means to work on it if the transmission is the only issue it has. Auto or manual?
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Didn't happen to see it on Craigslist in Georgia did you? I was gonna get it but had to rent a tow dolly. I didn't know if it was a B20 or 21 and didn't know the mileage.They sell them at Tiger Japanese for 200 bucks but the shipping is 200 also. Put one in last year and works perfect.I;m here in Fayetteville. Yes It's a good deal! Just remember, You have to pull off the transmission a little to disconnect the shifter cable. Not like an Accord.

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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

Yes I live in Fairburn ga. Yep Craigslist and the guy owned a dolly and brought it to my house for free. Great deal. Now I'm just looking for a trans. Thank you for that site. I'm looking at it now. What tran should I be looking for?
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I spent more than that on a motor scooter
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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

Register with local junkyards for 'wish-list' if they have 'em.
3g preludes (unfortuneatly) show up a lot...
Others here can tell you specific model numbers of 5 speeds that'll bolt up.

I had an auto and a shifter. Shifter was fun on open roads, but the auto was better suited for in town or highway use.

Enjoy your new project. But be warned...some parts are getting scarce. (Hence the junkyard comment)
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Yes I live in Fairburn ga. Yep Craigslist and the guy owned a dolly and brought it to my house for free. Great deal. Now I'm just looking for a trans. Thank you for that site. I'm looking at it now. What tran should I be looking for?
Once again, is it auto or manual?
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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

Sorry. It's an auto. I wanted Manuel but at this price I couldn't pass it up
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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

No worries, it's easy to overlook questions. I have never owned an auto 3rd gen, so I don't know much about which transmissions you can use, but Ido know you'll be limited to 3rd gen auto gearboxes with the stock engine.
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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

Well Mike it's kinda like anything else with that series of engine...
3g prelude auto tranny or nuthin'.

Between 1970's induced squishy brain cells and working on a construction project with federal $ (read federal red tape due to all that paperwork)..
my brain has been purged of lots of auto 3g prelude info...

But if what's left of that info in my memory banks serves correctly, there were 2 versions of that tranny. As in 1 for the B20 motor and 1 for the B21.

There was a very rare LSD in that very rare TCV edition. My brain's also saying that the B20 version bolts to both engines, but the 21 version does not....

Trouble is there isn't a lot of info out there even though the automatic version was very popular to the masses back then and held up pretty good.

If you notice each "special edition" of the 3g had an automatic transmission...

Maybe Les can add to this...he has an auto.
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I want to switch out the engine for a h22a. Any suggestions?
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Got mine at Tiger Japanese for 199 bucks but the shipping was 200. A junkyard tranny is usually on it's last leg where the JDM ones have less than 60,000 on them.It's gotta be a 9o-91 only for your cv axles to fit. If you want the h22 engine then you have deeper pockets than most. I'll pay you an extra 100 bucks to drop it off to my house here in Fayetteville if you're interested. Believe it or not but the auto does 200 rpm's lower at highway speeds than the manual.60 mph in my manual I'm doing 3,000 rpm's but the auto is at 2,800.

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I want to switch out the engine for a h22a. Any suggestions?
Figure 5 grand to do the H22. $1800+ for a motor and tranny...
Then you have to have it mounted using special stuff, then re-wire it using special stuff...
By now you're at $23-2500..then the bigger engine messes with the balance of the car. Cornering is sluggish and under steer is pronounced.
So you beef up the front end...which in turn effects the rear...so figure a grand for coil over shocks...
Then when all that extra stiffness starts to cause 25 year old welds to begin to fail, add grommeting...

And of course you don't want to just slap in a used motor...new gaskets, hoses, timing belt, clutch..

Want me to keep going?

But if you insist, there's a thread at the top of this page all about the H22 swap.
Not trying to talk you out of it...not at all. Just wanted to point out that with 3g preludes it's not a plug-n-play deal.
It makes for one potent race car once you're done, yet getting there is quite the journey.

If you wanna do a budget thing, the B20 swap gives you an engine with conventional piston sleeves you can punch out to B21 size and get a couple more horsies...
Oh, shucks I forget but swapping the head of one gives higher compression, but I forget which head to block does that...
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Figure 5 grand to do the H22. $1800+ for a motor and tranny...
Then you have to have it mounted using special stuff, then re-wire it using special stuff...
By now you're at $23-2500..then the bigger engine messes with the balance of the car. Cornering is sluggish and under steer is pronounced.
So you beef up the front end...which in turn effects the rear...so figure a grand for coil over shocks...
Then when all that extra stiffness starts to cause 25 year old welds to begin to fail, add grommeting...

And of course you don't want to just slap in a used motor...new gaskets, hoses, timing belt, clutch..

Want me to keep going?

But if you insist, there's a thread at the top of this page all about the H22 swap.
Not trying to talk you out of it...not at all. Just wanted to point out that with 3g preludes it's not a plug-n-play deal.
It makes for one potent race car once you're done, yet getting there is quite the journey.

If you wanna do a budget thing, the B20 swap gives you an engine with conventional piston sleeves you can punch out to B21 size and get a couple more horsies...
Oh, shucks I forget but swapping the head of one gives higher compression, but I forget which head to block does that...
One thing Mike didn't mention is that you'd also need to swap to a manual transmission since any auto transmission that bolts up to the h22 won't physically fit the 3rd gen engine bay. So you'll need to figure in the cost of doing that as well.
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Lespaul59 I have been on tiger Japanese and I think I'm going stock tran and keep my stock engine. And there might be an issue with the steering pump CB I can barely turn the wheel.
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If you're gonna change the pump remember the bolt holding the pulley on is Lefthand threads NOT standard.
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How do we pull the engine codes. I have a obd scanner tool but it's 96 and newer cars.
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You're missing part of the intake that goes to the right side headlight area that makes the stock intake a cold air intake. You should try to find that piece.
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I have the intake in the passenger seat. Lol don't ask me why but it's there. On my day off I'm going to put in work
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Haha, yeah it doesn't do much for you sitting on the seat.
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Question if I clean the throttle body will it give me those high rpm low rpm issues. With new cars when you clean it you have to relearn the air to gas ratio with a computer. I have heard with older cars resetting the computer is simply unplugging the battery
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You can pull the ground wire and it'll reset.

Go to Prelude3g.com and lurk around there a while...then download a service manual. Great old school site.
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Re: $350 for a 3rd gen prelude. Good or bad?

Good score. Good luck with the car
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