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Few problems with my 88, help please

I recently bought a 1988 honda prelude si 4ws and there are a couple things wrong with it that I can't seem to find out how to diagnose.
First off I can't figure out why my s3 light is blinking. Secondly my speedometer doesn't seem to work but the rpm meter does. The car has a slow acceleration, when you hit the gas the car doesn't seem to go as fast as it should. And does anyone know where to buy eom parts for this kind of car like a website or a place somewhere in Los Angeles, my engine to air filter flex pipe is ripped and I cannot for the life of me find a replacement or a substitute for the thing. I've already tried the junkyard and all the pieces were in the se condition as mine. Any advice or help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

Hey there! Have you changed your transmission fluid and filter? That can cause an automatic car to take off sluggish. Also, your car may not be shifting down to 1st and is trying to take off in 2nd or 3rd.

The chances of finding OEM Parts for these cars is dwidling day by day, but there are some out there. Click on this link to a Google search I just did for OEM Honda Parts and you will see SEVERAL links to parts

OEM Honda Parts

But as far as that flexible air intake hose, You will have to search a Salvage Yard for that, or go aftermarket. A good online salvage yard website to visit is Find recycled automotive parts from self service auto recycling yards! | ROW52 You can register and see what/how many 88-91 Preludes the local participating Salvage yards have, if any...

The speedometer can be a couple of things... The cable coming from the transmission, the pulse generator in the cluster, or it could be what was wrong with mine... Fractured solder joints on the input connector on the back of the speedometer itself.

Question: Does your Odometer/Tripometer work? If not, the problem is most likely the cable. If it DOES work, then you can check those solder joints on the back of the Speedometer. Check out this link for a reference:

This May Be What's Wrong With Your Speedometer

Oh, and here's the the link to the Repair Manual for our cars:

88-91 Prelude Helms Repair Manual

That should get you started. I'm sure a couple others may join in with advice! Feel free to post any further questions! Good Luck!
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

Good stuff Tony!

Newb 95:
Car-part.com lists used parts from coast to coast. And it can be delivered to your door.

Do you have a carb or fuel injection? I'm guessing FI because it's a 4ws model. (Luzer will correct if I'm wrong there. He keeps me from misinforming folks), but either way the breather tube from the 90/91 differs from the 88/89 if memory serves.

If the fluid/filter change doesn't help it may be a solenoid. I believe you can still find them at the big name part stores.

Hey Tony, did you know that while sitting at a red light the 3g auto is in 2nd gear? Yep, it slips into first when you go to take off.
Mine was stuck in 2rd one day. And boy did it bog like an old gummed up quadra-jet.
In my case the freaking throttle cable being mis-adjusted caused it. I had over tightened it. Back to factory-ish loose got it solved but then I had idle bounce. Faaaaaak! Without the proper tension checker I did the trial and error thing until both issues were gone. Sheesh.
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Do you have a carb or fuel injection? I'm guessing FI because it's a 4ws model. (Luzer will correct if I'm wrong there. He keeps me from misinforming folks), but either way the breather tube from the 90/91 differs from the 88/89 if memory serves.
Hey, I resemble that remark. Methinks I'm getting a bit of a reputation here. But, just so you're not disappointed...what you said is true for North America (and applicable for the OP since he's in SOCAL), but not for other markets. There were carb'd 4ws models in other parts of the world. The 2.0XX4ws model for example. The XX meant it was dual carb'd. There, are you happy?
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

I figured you knew that sir.

No slight intended. But was actually an invitation to join the conversation.

My thinking was a carb'd model would have a different intake tubing than the fuel injected.

Oh, and I'll be happy when buzkill yells at me again for passing off false information I read on a reply he made several years ago at another site.
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

Yeah, the intake piping is totally different between the carb'd and fuel injected engines. Nothing between the two is interchangeable as far as the intake goes.
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

I've only seen one carby prelude as a grownup and that was a 2g.
As a kid my buddies mom had a 1g, but everything we could afford was carb'd back then.

Nice to see you still helping now that you're (temporarily) ludeless...they all come back sooner or later.
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

I've owned two carbie ludes (one of them twice). That's three too many LOL. It's not the first time I've been ludeless...but I'm getting the itch to buy a 4th or 5th gen now. Would prefer a 5th but it all depends on what's available to me when/if I decide to pull the trigger. Right now I'm having too much fun with the WRX. What I really miss is having a project to work on, and I'm not even sure another Prelude is what I want to work on.

I wonder if the OP is going to come back and answer Tony's questions to try to get this thread back on topic.
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

Hey tonemeister95 thanks for all the info, it's a big help and sorry for the late reply, I'm caught up in work this week. Back to business, yeah I'm going to do a transmission oil change once I find a shop and some time this weekend and I'm praying that'll fix it. It might be the solenoid and if it is do you have a link to a manual to change it yourself or am I better off paying the shop?
As far as the speedometer goes, it's the only part of the cluster that doesn't work, the speedometer is also mechanical and I'm not sure if the same thing applies? But nevertheless I'll clean the solder joints
And yes my car is fuel injected and I'm worried I might have to replace the whole transmission and if I do, do you know a reliable source to buy it off of? I see them on eBay but I'm not sure if it's safe to get it from there, maybe one of you can give me a little insight. Thank you again to both of you
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Re: Few problems with my 88, help please

If the odometer works then that means the speedo cable is spinning, and everything before it is working. The problem is in the gauge cluster. Likely culprits are the actual speedometer, speed sensor, or the speed sensor amplifier, all of which are attached to the gauge cluster. I'm not sure if you have any junkyards in your area, but it's handy to have a working gauge cluster for troubleshooting purposes. While it's good to follow a troubleshooting procedure (which can be found in the online service manual, starting on page 16-80), sometimes it's faster to just swap parts if you have spares.
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Yeah I'll probably end up doing that instead then thanks
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Good stuff Tony!

If the fluid/filter change doesn't help it may be a solenoid. I believe you can still find them at the big name part stores.

Hey Tony, did you know that while sitting at a red light the 3g auto is in 2nd gear? Yep, it slips into first when you go to take off.
Mine was stuck in 2rd one day. And boy did it bog like an old gummed up quadra-jet.
Why thank you Sir! And I didn't know that the Autos start out in 2nd, but I do now! I had bought a Kia for cheap that ran great at speed but was slow to take off. Those autos use electronics and solenoids to control which gear it shifts to. I determined that it wasn't shifting down to 1st at a stop so I put it up on jack stands and manually shifted gears while took readings at the control module. I saw that the proper voltage was getting to the solenoids and that the resistance was on spec. So I dropped the pan, located the 1st gear solenoid and pulled it out. The O-Ring felt like a gummy bear. There was no sealing action going on between the solenoid and valve body so the fluid was not building pressure to shift the gear down to 1st. I bought a box of O-Rings from AZ and replaced it and the other 4 or 5 and Voila! The car shifted even better than before in all gears.

SO... Long story short... It MAY just be the O-Ring on the solenoid and NOT the solenoid itself...
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