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I Fixed A Couple of A/C Issues

Well, last week it was quite slow at work. Boss had nothing for me to do as our projects have been throttled back, so I took the time to repair a couple of the Electronic Modules in my 89. (My boss is kool like that and I so happen to be an Electronics Tech by trade with all the necessary tools to perform the repairs properly)

Once again, Honda's sucky soldering skills have caused fractured solder joints to be the cause.

Most of the LEDs in my A/C Control Panel not working or kinda dim. Terrible soldering skills/workmanship, coupled with the possibility of the PO punching the buttons with some force/velocity caused some of the leads on the LEDs to jar loose.

There were a couple "iffy" solder joints on the main connector that goes down to the Compressor Control Module that I suspect was causing my Compressor to kicking out/off on every bump in the road, especially on hot days when you need it most.

The Compressor Control Module had several apparent fractured solder joints as well, which I performed the removal and reapplication of solder to ALL of those joints. "Do it right the first time and you (hopefully) won't have to do it again." I always say...

I did that on Friday and my A/C ran constantly all weekend and again this morning on the way into work. All the LEDs are now lit when I press the buttons so that fixed that as well.

Here are some pictures, but they look like any other fractured solder joint, some worse than others though.

All these bad solder joints makes me wonder if they used a sub-par solder when Honda was building these Electonic parts...

Anyways, Here are the pictures:











In the other pictures, the fractured solder joint is apparent... Those are the LED leads going into the A/C Control Panel Module. In this picture of the A/C Compressor Control Module, you can't see the fractures so easily. There is minimal solder on each joint and if you look at the pins sticking up, there are at least 1 concentric circle around the pin. That circular line is a fracture. I can see 7 out of the 10 in the picture were bad. I used a microscope on that whole baord to make sure none of the other solder joints were bad, and if they even looked kinda off, I resoldered them.

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Re: I Fixed A Couple of A/C Issues

Folks say bad soldering, but for the time it was way better than the other manufacturers were doing. Ford, Chrysler, Toyota etc weren't doing things as well as Honda overall.
But after 20+ years of heating/cooling, expanding/contracting the soft metal fatigues to the point of failure.
We know better in 2015, but in 1989, Honda built cars as good or better than anybody.

Not trying to be argumentative there Tony. Good job on the repairs.
Now my 3 week old Chinese made coffee pot failing because of solders...that's poor workmanship.
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No worries Mike, Not taking it as an argument. Good to know info. I know for a FACT that AC Delco (GM) Radios have one of the highest failure rates. EVERY SINGLE ONE in every single one of my and my Dad's vehicles has failed. Not sure on Fords and all the others.

I totally agree with you that due to 25+ Years of heating and cooling and road vibration can take a toll on electronics. Especially when the inside of a car in direct sunlight on a hot day can easily reach 150F... If not higher.

I guess I haven't had the opportunity to work on a car this old, with this much electronics to fail. It may also be that the military equipment I used to work on is made to a higher standard and sometimes uses a higher temperature solder.

Whatever the cause, I am wondering if other members are having issues with their cars due to solder issues with any of the Control Modules I have repaired or the ECU's , Integrated Control Units, Etc...
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Re: I Fixed A Couple of A/C Issues

My '89 has had a few problems that I've fixed just by re-soldering the circuit boards. The main relay seems to be the most common but I've also resurrected the hazard light switch and the cruise control power switch. I've had no problems yet with the ECU or control modules.

Temps here range from lows of -10c (14f) in winter to as high as 45c (113f) in summer.
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Good lookin out Tony.

I had the pleasure of American made garbage in the 80's and 90's and regret not exploring Hondas back then...but the mindset was "push an American car uphill before driving a Jap car"
WW2 was still in the psyche of the adults that raised me.

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No worries Mike, Not taking it as an argument. Good to know info. I know for a FACT that AC Delco (GM) Radios have one of the highest failure rates. EVERY SINGLE ONE in every single one of my and my Dad's vehicles has failed. Not sure on Fords and all the others.

I totally agree with you that due to 25+ Years of heating and cooling and road vibration can take a toll on electronics. Especially when the inside of a car in direct sunlight on a hot day can easily reach 150F... If not higher.

I guess I haven't had the opportunity to work on a car this old, with this much electronics to fail. It may also be that the military equipment I used to work on is made to a higher standard and sometimes uses a higher temperature solder.

Whatever the cause, I am wondering if other members are having issues with their cars due to solder issues with any of the Control Modules I have repaired or the ECU's , Integrated Control Units, Etc...
I would like to add that a major contributor to the solder joints failing is single-sided boards. I haven't looked at the cruise control module so I don't know if it's single-sided or not, but I know the main relay board is. A single-sided pc board is a lot more susceptible to vibration damage than a double-sided or multi-layer pc board. And as we know, cars are full of vibrations. We do vibe testing where I work, and the first thing we changed in our designs when we first started this testing was to eliminate all single-sided boards.

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Good lookin out Tony.

I had the pleasure of American made garbage in the 80's and 90's and regret not exploring Hondas back then...but the mindset was "push an American car uphill before driving a Jap car"
WW2 was still in the psyche of the adults that raised me.

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I was right there with you Mike. You wouldn't have caught me dead in a "rice burner" back then. Of course I've changed my opinion since then. There are still a lot of "good ol' boys" here driving their lifted diesel pick-ups who do not like Japanese cars, and will do everything they can to keep from getting passed on the highway by one. It's fun when they try to keep me behind them when I'm driving my WRX.
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Yeah, I am converted...but that 345hp awd Ford Focus is calling my name lately...
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My '89 has had a few problems that I've fixed just by re-soldering the circuit boards. The main relay seems to be the most common but I've also resurrected the hazard light switch and the cruise control power switch. I've had no problems yet with the ECU or control modules.

Temps here range from lows of -10c (14f) in winter to as high as 45c (113f) in summer.
Did you have a problem where your Cruise wasn't working due to the power switch? I resoldered mine as well and it fixed the power light flickering, but my cruise still doesn't work. Haven't done any extensive TS yet though, just wondering if it could be as simple as resoldering the Power Switch (again)

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Good lookin out Tony.

I had the pleasure of American made garbage in the 80's and 90's and regret not exploring Hondas back then...but the mindset was "push an American car uphill before driving a Jap car"
WW2 was still in the psyche of the adults that raised me.

Almost bought a new Accord in '89, but bought a used Buick...another hunka-junk that lasted about as long as my payment book.
I didn't get my first car until '92. It was a 77 Ford Granada so I was spared all the electronic woes. My second car was the 78 Skylark.

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I would like to add that a major contributor to the solder joints failing is single-sided boards. I haven't looked at the cruise control module so I don't know if it's single-sided or not, but I know the main relay board is. A single-sided pc board is a lot more susceptible to vibration damage than a double-sided or multi-layer pc board. And as we know, cars are full of vibrations. We do vibe testing where I work, and the first thing we changed in our designs when we first started this testing was to eliminate all single-sided boards.

I was right there with you Mike. You wouldn't have caught me dead in a "rice burner" back then. Of course I've changed my opinion since then. There are still a lot of "good ol' boys" here driving their lifted diesel pick-ups who do not like Japanese cars, and will do everything they can to keep from getting passed on the highway by one. It's fun when they try to keep me behind them when I'm driving my WRX.
I know what you mean about those single sided circuit cards. The solder has nothing to stick to so you don't get a good flow all the way to the other side, especially if the Via's are crappy.

I am used to soldering with Military/Aviation/Downhole Oilfield Electronics standards so when I see solder joints with minimal solder, cold solder joints, fractures, or leftover flux on the board, I cringe...

Hey Byk, These conditions are what I am referring to as shotty solder-work. And I am sure that Honda isn't the ONLY one who falls under this category. I have worked on household electronics of all brands and seen the flux residue all over the place. Tsk Tsk Tsk to those guys for not cleaning up after themselves!

So maybe I my expectations are too high or something. Regardless, heat mixed with vibration mixed with minimal solder on single-sided boards and you are bound to have problems down the road..

At least we know what to loook for when things fail and "most" of the time, a removal and reapplication of solder fixes the issue.
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Did you have a problem where your Cruise wasn't working due to the power switch? I resoldered mine as well and it fixed the power light flickering, but my cruise still doesn't work. Haven't done any extensive TS yet though, just wondering if it could be as simple as resoldering the Power Switch (again)
Yes, cruise didn't work at all until I tested and re-soldered the power switch, the light didn't come on before the fix either so your problem might be somewhere else. I was probably just lucky that the first component I checked turned out to be the problem.
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Yes, cruise didn't work at all until I tested and re-soldered the power switch, the light didn't come on before the fix either so your problem might be somewhere else. I was probably just lucky that the first component I checked turned out to be the problem.
Kool, thanks for that info. I'm going to go ahead and resolder the switch again as I am uncertain if I had resoldered all the contacts or not.

And I have some sad news... I guess I was too proud of my handywork and I jinxed myself... My A/C stopped working yesterday on the way home from work. There are No lights on the control panel. I checked the fuses when I got home and they all were good. (But I'm going to check them once more before tearing into it)

I looked at the wiring diagram that "power" comes from the Compressor Control Unit so looks like I'll be pulling that sucker out at Lunch time. Good thing it only takes 5 mins to remove and I kind of jumped the gun and already took the glove box off. I just hope it's something simple.
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Yeah, I am converted...but that 345hp awd Ford Focus is calling my name lately...
Love the car, hate the price...I hope you're willing to shell out more than $45k for that beast. It's too bad it'll cost so much because they could have stolen approximately half of the WRX buyers who were upset that Subaru discontinued the hatch version of that car. Kudos for bringing this car to the US market, but Ford missed the boat on this one IMHO.
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Well, Found out why the A/C wouldn't turn on... After consulting the Wiring Diagram, I found that Fuse # 18 was blown... This is the one for the Rear Defogger, and also powers the Control Panel through the Compressor Control Module. (But the label on the fuse box sticker doesn't say that)

I put a new 10 amp fuse in and the A/C ran for a few moments and then blew the fuse. I stepped up to a 15 amp and it ran for about 10 minutes without blowing and without smoke. Thinking about pulling the Compressor Control Module and possibly the A/C Control Panel to do some resistance and diode checks to make sure everything is within tolerance.

Keeping my fingers crossed that the A/C continues to cool and that the fuse doesn't blow and nothing smoke-checks.

Anyone have any thoughts/input? Besides the fact that I "probably" shouldn't have put a 15 amp fuse in place of that 10 amp fuse...
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I might suspect the compressor control module or the compressor clutch. Maybe try to pick up a spare module from the junkyard. If you can't find one, I guess I can ask my son to remove the one in his car since I gutted the A/C system when I owned the car. It's still in the car as far as I know.
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Yeah, I am also suspecting the Compressor Control Module. Although, I didn't see any "dark" spots on the board when I resoldered the connections. Usually the power resistors and diodes will discolor from overheating but I saw nothing of the sort. But it doesn't mean that they aren't stressed or past their "useful life". I left the glove box off for now because I want to take a 2nd look inside the Module. I am pretty sure that I can replace any components that are out of tolerance. None looked like "specialty" parts, like programmed EEProms, custom inductors, or anything like that.

Just need to make sure that I don't use my rear defogger... unless I keep the A/C off while it is on... I am for certain that 15 amp fuse would blow with both on.
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You are probably okay temporarily using the 15A fuse for troubleshooting purposes. Circuits are normally fused to half of their rated current capacity. So theoretically that circuit can withstand 20A for a short duration. 15A is too close for comfort to that 20A for long term use, so you are wise to fix the problem. Some guys would just go with the 15A fuse and bless it as cured, and then wonder why they were seeing melted wires later.
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Oh yeah, and the melted wire usually ends up in the hardest place to reach in order to fix it! (Thanks to that bastard Murphy!)
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Well, Found out why the A/C wouldn't turn on... After consulting the Wiring Diagram, I found that Fuse # 18 was blown... This is the one for the Rear Defogger, and also powers the Control Panel through the Compressor Control Module. (But the label on the fuse box sticker doesn't say that)

I put a new 10 amp fuse in and the A/C ran for a few moments and then blew the fuse. I stepped up to a 15 amp and it ran for about 10 minutes without blowing and without smoke. Thinking about pulling the Compressor Control Module and possibly the A/C Control Panel to do some resistance and diode checks to make sure everything is within tolerance.

Keeping my fingers crossed that the A/C continues to cool and that the fuse doesn't blow and nothing smoke-checks.

Anyone have any thoughts/input? Besides the fact that I "probably" shouldn't have put a 15 amp fuse in place of that 10 amp fuse...
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forget the service manual, consoult your ETM for complete power distribution. And don't forget to check the other sub circuits on that fuse.
^^ Good point about the sub circuits. It might not be the compressor control module at all. It could be something else in the circuit that's drawing more current than normal, and activating the compressor might just be taking it over the 10A threshold.
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^^ Good point about the sub circuits. It might not be the compressor control module at all. It could be something else in the circuit that's drawing more current than normal, and activating the compressor might just be taking it over the 10A threshold.
I like the way you guys think.

Well, the 15A fuse hasn't blown but my A/C error light IS coming on. It varies how long after the cycling of power before it comes on again. I am hearing what I believe to be Compressor Clutch slippage so maybe the electromagnet is going bad (shorting out) and that is what is causing the error light to come on. Seen that happen before... I will do some resistance readings at lunch. I pulled the Compressor Module anyways and am going to look at it in just a few minutes, just to be sure that everything looks good.
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I checked the Power Distribution Diagram and the only things powered by Fuse # 18 are the Rear Defogger, The A/C Control Panel & Heater controls, The Compressor Control Module, and the Compressor clutch Coil itself... Thinking it's the Clutch Coil going out. I read about another member having this issue and it was the coil.

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Do you have the electric troubleshoot manual Tony?

If not, Kronn 98SH might have posted it on his 'manuals' thread at prelude online. He has a huge assortment of manuals on his google docs...brb...

Will try later...found some links by him to 5g stuff, but not his whole list....
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Hey Byk, yeah, I have that manual. : It actually shows the complete wiring diagram of the A/C Circuit as well as the full wiring diagram that ties everything together. (Power Distribution)

And that 15A fuse blew yesterday, so there is a definite problem somewhere. Not Ruling out the Heater Control Panel. I may need to pull that back apart to make sure I didn't cause any issues that weren't there before.

I took some readings of the Thermal & Pick-Up sensors and they are within specs, but the Stator Coil (The electro-magnet that pulls the clutch in) is reading around 58Ω but that is at operating temp. The manual says that it should be ~3Ω at 68F... But that's not happening today as we are in a 100+ heat wave for the next 7 days... At least I got a covered parking spot at work today. I'll check it again when it's "cool"... Probably at lunch time and again right before I leave work. Going to take more readings of the Thermal & Pick-Up sensors as well.

I found a replacement on HondaPartsNow for $68... Going to look more once I verify that it is bad.
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Hey Byk, yeah, I have that manual. : It actually shows the complete wiring diagram of the A/C Circuit as well as the full wiring diagram that ties everything together. (Power Distribution)

And that 15A fuse blew yesterday, so there is a definite problem somewhere. Not Ruling out the Heater Control Panel. I may need to pull that back apart to make sure I didn't cause any issues that weren't there before.

I took some readings of the Thermal & Pick-Up sensors and they are within specs, but the Stator Coil (The electro-magnet that pulls the clutch in) is reading around 58Ω but that is at operating temp. The manual says that it should be ~3Ω at 68F... But that's not happening today as we are in a 100+ heat wave for the next 7 days... At least I got a covered parking spot at work today. I'll check it again when it's "cool"... Probably at lunch time and again right before I leave work. Going to take more readings of the Thermal & Pick-Up sensors as well.

I found a replacement on HondaPartsNow for $68... Going to look more once I verify that it is bad.
In your profession you should know resistance values are only a value in the math calculation to determine circuit current draw and by themselves dont mean much. So regardless of temp, you can still test, you just change the equation. How many amps is your coil drawing? How many amps is your climate control drawing? When added together is it grater than 9 amps constant? A circuit using a 15 amp fuse should only have 7.5 amps with only the occasional spike near 15(or less) amps during field energizing and collapse. In your first post you said you have all the nessessary tools to preform the repairs, so with your amp prob and dso you aught to be able to see any degredation of the quality of your clutch coil with out taking anything apart or even getting dirty.
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In your profession you should know resistance values are only a value in the math calculation to determine circuit current draw and by themselves dont mean much.
ACTUALLY, the resistance reading means a LOT to the overall "Big Picture" of what is going on... Especially if there is a short...

But I get what you are saying... An increase of resistance would cause the current draw to decrease, not increase and cause a fuse to pop. Now, If the coil happened to short, or even if it just halved in resistance, (Partial short withing the coil itself) it would go from drawing only 4.5A and increase to 9A. That combined with the current draw of the 2 Control Modules, would blow the original 10A fuse... So I am leaning towards the excessive current draw being caused by one of the other 2 modules.

As far as the coil readings, I took another reading when I got out of work Friday before I cranked the car. Not sure what the tamperature of the coil was as I didn't have a thermometer handy but it was probably real close to ambient of 96F or so and the reading was 9Ω. Now, I have been taking the reading at the Compressor Control Module Connector (Brown Wire) and it is possible that the length of that Brown power wire, and/or the resistance in the ground path back to the compressor could be causing the extra 6Ω I am getting in my reading... Which means that I really need to take that reading at the Compressor itself and early in the morning before the car has a chance to start heating up. I am expecting a somewhat normal reading around 3Ω. (The specs say 2.7Ω - 3.3Ω)

As far as having "All the necessary equipment to perform the repairs"... That is true, I have current probes, DMM's, O-Scopes, etc etc available... For use in the Lab. They kinda frown on us taking the equipment to our car... And no electrical sockets to plug in the equipment. Maybe I could manage to take an ammeter out there, but I have one on my personal DMM.

BUT... I could use the battery in the car and my ammeter in-line to see what the current draw is of the coil itself, or I may wire up my personal Variable DC power supply that has a current draw display and see what the coil itself is reading, and then do the same with the other 2 units as well. I may just remove them from the car and check them out here, since it is once again looking like a slow week.
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Just playing! You too Luda. I appreciate the insight! Sometimes it helps to have another set of eyes or a second opinion because sometimes we miss the obvious... And it's right in front of our face.

I won't get a chance to check out the clutch coil until Saturday morning. I pulled the Compressor Control Module and am going to see what the current draw is on it out of the car and take one more look on the inside. I may get to pull the A/C - Heater Control Panel today at lunch and do the same with it.

I'll let you guys know what I figure out.
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