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How much would you pay?

Hello everyone,

I was wondering what you would pay for a 1989 SI 5sp with 130,000 miles (original miles). It had some rust above the rear wheels but looks OK otherwise.
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Re: How much would you pay?

1) How you want it?
2) How good of shape is car overall?
3) How bad you want it?

Me? I wouldn't pay more than $2k unless it had been garaged, had all new t-belt/water pump etc, brand new tires with perfect center caps & rims, has a clock with cover, working antenna, perfect screw cover over the rear view mirror, near perfect interior, and had a minty owners manual.

Expect to pay anywhere between $800 and 1800 in all seriousness.
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Re: How much would you pay?

I've always wanted a 3rd gen prelude but this is the first time I've seen one locally for sale. KBB does not go back to 89 so I couldn't get a book value. The guy is asking $1800 but that seems high since it clearly hasn't been garaged and has some small issues. I guess that I should pass on it unless I can get it cheap.
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carry 12 $100 bills in your left pocket all balled up like you always carry 12 $100 bills and 3 in the right...show him the 12. If he balks and you don't mind paying 15...you go "oh man I forgot I got these other 3"..if you really want it and the maintenance is up to date (note t-belt less than 5 years old or 60k miles), good tires, exhaust etc then maybe stuff 2 more in your back pocket. Keep in mind a t-belt is $4-800 at a shop and about $150 if you do it yourself.

I paid $1700 for one with a busted engine. It was minty on the outside, and near minty on the inside. And I WANTED IT.
I paid too much for an auto with a slipping tranny. But again I WANTED IT. Now the auto owner (a neighbor) had sunk over $3 grand in it over an 18 month period but sold it due to a flickering alternator lamp that I fixed by plugging it up properly.
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Re: How much would you pay?

It really depends on how bad the rust is. Sellers normally under-exaggerate how bad rust is. We need to see pictures of it to give you a better idea of what it's worth. Most 3rd genners can deal with engine or transmission problems, or suspension issues, brake problems, or even a trashed interior. But to fix rust, especially in the rear quarter panels, and not have it come back is much more difficult to do (ask me how I know LOL).
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1) How you want it?
2) How good of shape is car overall?
3) How bad you want it?

Me? I wouldn't pay more than $2k unless it had been garaged, had all new t-belt/water pump etc, brand new tires with perfect center caps & rims, has a clock with cover, working antenna, perfect screw cover over the rear view mirror, near perfect interior, and had a minty owners manual.

Expect to pay anywhere between $800 and $1800 in all seriousness.
Byk, You expecting a miracle or what!!?? Clock Cover? Rearview Screw Cover!? LOL!

As a reference... I paid $800 for mine about 11 months ago. It only had 70K miles on it, but it had been sitting so it needed a battery, tires, belts, & hoses. They wanted $1200, but we couldn't get it to start so I walked. That was on that Saturday. They called me back on Monday and offered it for $800. (Luckily, the starting issue turned out to be the little button on the upper clutch pedal arm that pushes the Safety Interlock Switch.)

So, what all is wrong with it? Does it run? I think $1800 is a bit high, especially if it has rust.
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It really depends on how bad the rust is. Sellers normally under-exaggerate how bad rust is. We need to see pictures of it to give you a better idea of what it's worth. Most 3rd genners can deal with engine or transmission problems, or suspension issues, brake problems, or even a trashed interior. But to fix rust, especially in the rear quarter panels, and not have it come back is much more difficult to do (ask me how I know LOL).
Yup, pulling out the rusty area plus a little more results in rust returning. In many cases it begins at the inner panel, and like cancer, it spreads to other areas.
Honda glued said panels together and over time moisture (even if you don't drive in the rain) gets trapped and as history shows causes rust to develop.
They tried dipping parts in galvanizer for the 5th gen. It was better, but they too are begining to rust for many people.
The area above the wheel is the most common. But sometimes it also develops in other places like in front of the rear wheel.

The solution is not practical for most, where you cut out the quarter skin, gouge a chunk of the inner panel, replace with say fiberglass and install a new quarter panel. Expensive to have it done assuming you can find rust free donor skins. Then the paint job...more than likely at least 1/3 of the car will have to be painted to get an exact (or close enough) paint match..if yours is red...pffft, pretty much figure the entire car. Todays computers are doing a great job at matching but say the left of your car gets more sunlight than the right, rear more than the front...roof more than the doors...
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It really depends on how bad the rust is. Sellers normally under-exaggerate how bad rust is. We need to see pictures of it to give you a better idea of what it's worth. Most 3rd genners can deal with engine or transmission problems, or suspension issues, brake problems, or even a trashed interior. But to fix rust, especially in the rear quarter panels, and not have it come back is much more difficult to do (ask me how I know LOL).
Yup, pulling out the rusty area plus a little more results in rust returning. In many cases it begins at the inner panel, and like cancer, it spreads to other areas.
Honda glued said panels together and over time moisture (even if you don't drive in the rain) gets trapped and as history shows causes rust to develop.
They tried dipping parts in galvanizer for the 5th gen. It was better, but they too are begining to rust for many people.
The area above the wheel is the most common. But sometimes it also develops in other places like in front of the rear wheel.

The solution is not practical for most, where you cut out the quarter skin, gouge a chunk of the inner panel, replace with say fiberglass and install a new quarter panel. Expensive to have it done assuming you can find rust free donor skins. Then the paint job...more than likely at least 1/3 of the car will have to be painted to get an exact (or close enough) paint match..if yours is red...pffft, pretty much figure the entire car. Todays computers are doing a great job at matching but say the left of your car gets more sunlight than the right, rear more than the front...roof more than the doors...you don't notice the dif. But if the computer matched the roof, it'll likely not match somewhere else on the car enough to necessitate a total re-spray.
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1) How you want it?
2) How good of shape is car overall?
3) How bad you want it?

Me? I wouldn't pay more than $2k unless it had been garaged, had all new t-belt/water pump etc, brand new tires with perfect center caps & rims, has a clock with cover, working antenna, perfect screw cover over the rear view mirror, near perfect interior, and had a minty owners manual.

Expect to pay anywhere between $800 and 1800 in all seriousness.
I FUGGIN KNEW MY REAR VIEW MIRROR COVER LOOKED OFF!!!!

anyone got a pic of that stupid screw cover? i wanna know what it looks like
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Had the mirror cover, no dash clock cover... i've seen pictures... it really is night and day when it's there lol


$1200 max, see how the car looks inside. You have to work the cosmetic neglect angle, seeing it was never garaged... Its not like you see a third gen all the time. If the car has ninja goodies like Si blade rims, 4WS, Stanley Power fog lights, Folding mirrors, High Spoiler, Coilover system... etc etc, those things Command the 1800.... even more actually.

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Re: How much would you pay?

When you go to drive it look for leaking oil pan seal, oil near the distributor, as well as any another leaks. If you can have someone sit in the passenger seat while car is running and see if seatbelt beeper/lamp goes away when they buckle up. Not a deal breaker, but a typical and very annoying malfunction you'd have to fix.



^^ look for stuff like this


^^ this would be an $800-1200 car

Why I paid $1700 for one with a broken motor.


^^ clock with cover


^^ made in japan/do not remove sticker, add $100


^^ screw cover intact


^^ minty blades, no rust. Splash guards.


^^ matching arm rest.
The closest in pic was an accord modified to fit the prelude.


^^ look for prelude floor mats. Mine came with gray.


^^ $1700 shell plus I WANTED IT!!

The typical 3g car these days:


^^ typical clock w/o cover



^^ broken or non working electric antenna



^^ sagging door hinges


^^ faded paint/clear coat fail

You know about the rust. Trim peeling, faded paint, faded cloth inside, (especially the back seat), clunks n squeaks n rattles are typical for a 20+ year old car. So don't figure on perfect, but if those things are not present than the owner probably won't budge much on the price.



^^ $3000 car
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Re: How much would you pay?

Thanks for all the info guys. I was not expecting everyone to be so helpful. I guess I will just post the classified here so you guys can judge for yourself. 1989 Honda Prelude 135K Miles Looks like its probably a ~$1000 car

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I looked at the post and Yeah, $1000 sounds about right... Maybe $1200...

What does the interior look like? I take it that it is driveable... Based on these things, i'm not sure if he will budge, but maybe he's "throwing out a line" to see what the market is like... I had a few issues with my 89 when I bought it last year so here are a couple things to check. If they don't work, you can use them as bargaining chips:
  • Is it currently Inspected and Registered? $50-$100
  • Is the Check engine light on? (O2 Sensor? Whatever else?) $$?
  • Do all the gauges work? (Gas, Temp, Tach, Speedo) We can help you fix those.
  • Is the Power Steering Hose leaking? $100
  • The Antenna is up, but does it go down?
  • Check the clutch Master & Slave cylinders as well as the hose for leaks.
  • Ask when the water pump and/or timing belt was last changed
  • Check to see if the passenger seatbelt warning indicator malfunctions. Turn on the car, fasten the passenger seatbelt, open the door and unlock the seatbelt. Then close the door. If it works, the warning will turn off. If it malfunctions, you won't be able to turn it off unless you turn off the car.
  • Look for ANY leaks UNDER the car and also "puddles" and "Dirty/oily" spots on the engine. Tell Tale signs that there are leaks.

These are the things that fail the MOST on these cars.

Guys, anything else I'm forgetting? (And sorry if I was redundant of anything that was previously said in the previous posts)
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Thanks for the info... I've seen it cruising around a couple times so I am assuming its in decent shape. This car would have a B20A5? Should I care about it not being 4WS (or is it better for it be simpler design given the vehicles age)
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That's a $1500 car where I live. Black n Tan too?
Yep...$1500 ez.
Early rust. Easily fixable in a way it won't show again for a few years.

Not being 4ws doesn't make or break the car. It was mechanical in nature. So it's not a bad thing by any means, vs the electronic type in the 4th gen.

Antenna is broken though.
It closes when car is turned off.
But you can get an oem type replacement from antennas are us.com for less than $50.
If the clock cover is off, but it's still in the car somewhere I'll show ya how to re-attach it for around $20 and it'll be better than when new.

Screw cover? Well hopefully it's there. But if not that aint a deal breaker.

The mechanical stuff is what really matters.

Ask why he's selling it. That always tells whether it's a money pit or not.
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OK great, I will take a look at it because its not far at all from my home. How are the clutch and transmission on these cars? My 99 Accord has 145k miles on the clutch and still works well.
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Thanks for the info... I've seen it cruising around a couple times so I am assuming its in decent shape. This car would have a B20A5? Should I care about it not being 4WS (or is it better for it be simpler design given the vehicles age)
Yes, it would have come with a b20a5. Most of us prefer 4WS. like Mike mentioned, it's a fully mechanical system. It's pretty much bullet proof in the 3rd gen.
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Except for the B21 block using piston rings for scoobie snax or auto trannies breaking after 200k miles the 3g has pretty reliable parts n pieces overall, including the clutch and manual tranny.

There were a few annoying things like rust, like phantom seat belt alarms or flickering battery lamp. The sticking antenna is typical for any car that age where either the plastic chain teeth get brittle n break or the motor fails.
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Antenna is broken though.
It closes when car is turned off. But you can get an oem type replacement from antennas are us.com for less than $50.

If the clock cover is off, but it's still in the car somewhere I'll show ya how to re-attach it for around $20 and it'll be better than when new.

Screw cover? Well hopefully it's there. But if not that aint a deal breaker.
I found a place that sells OEM Antennas for $25 shipping included. (Maybe it was $29, but it was UNDER $30) I'll send you guys the link if you need it.

BykFixer, I might need that info on how toy "fix" the clock cover. I don't have mine but I think I could fabricate one using your trick and some "extra" plastic off the trim in the trunk.

Nurb, I bought an extra screw cover from a guy parting out his lude but it cracked. So I have 2 cracked ones that I am going to try to fix via a "fiberglassing" technique and if I am successful, I will sell you one for cheap.
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I found a place that sells OEM Antennas for $25 shipping included. (Maybe it was $29, but it was UNDER $30) I'll send you guys the link if you need it.

BykFixer, I might need that info on how toy "fix" the clock cover. I don't have mine but I think I could fabricate one using your trick and some "extra" plastic off the trim in the trunk.

Nurb, I bought an extra screw cover from a guy parting out his lude but it cracked. So I have 2 cracked ones that I am going to try to fix via a "fiberglassing" technique and if I am successful, I will sell you one for cheap.
Great, thanks. I will let you guys know if I end up purchasing the car.
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