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There is an aquantence of mine who is selling a superchraged built H23 that has 300hp. Is this even possible and if so what should I look for to make sure it's in good condition?

He said he would send me pics and I will post them when he does.
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It's do-able...you mean the VTEC one, right?
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Why wouldn't it be possible? There have been people who were able to squeeze more than that out of the b20a. I'm real interested in seeing the pics though. Supercharging isn't very common on Prelude engines. Turbos are so much less work to install.
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I talk to him tomorrow about the pictures I think he forgot. -epic fail-
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300whp with a supercharger? Say whaaaat? Your friend is a liar.

I'm kidding. It's totally doable.
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^^ yeah. Easier with an h23 vtec than an h22
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i have a customer i am building a big tube header for who currently makes 283whp on 6psi. We are hoping to see 320whp with a 9psi pulley and my header

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thats not the exit. i have not built the under pan section yet
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You getting all this Ginger_Beast?
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All the extra ponies that will give.. I'm wondering how much extra torque u predict?
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His goal is 320whp. He is going to a 9psi pulley too.
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Does that mean the pulley is smaller and rotates the SC faster? What's the highest you've seen?
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Geramy maxed the boost on his sc years ago if I'm not mistaken. Just over 13psi before maxing the charger out.

Look his threads up on other forums. Long sold it to another member, running far less boost

320 on the above mentioned motor is doable. But there is more work done
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Did that 13psi hit those hp #'s?
Does that involve upgraded head components ?
SC doesnt seem to make the numbers I hoped to see. Mind you I fully comprehend that 320 or more of instant power is daunting on a 4th gen. Can they not hit around 400, if the entire head was to be JUN for example ? titanium and so on..

I just havent been witness to those things yet, hence me asking. Maybe a Nos shot, but I am anti-Nos for some reason..

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i have a customer i am building a big tube header for who currently makes 283whp on 6psi. We are hoping to see 320whp with a 9psi pulley and my header

So that's an h23 that's super chraged plus your sweet header, or just an h23? What is the 6psi about? I need basic engine knowledge bad...-goes looking for thread-
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go to the bookstore and start reading. HowStuffWorks - Learn How Everything Works!

6psi is the amount of back pressure in the induction track. It gets built up when the valves are closed so when they open, there is a huge rush of air/fuel thus yielding a greater ability to fill/overfill the combustion chamber during the intake stroke.
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Did that 13psi hit those hp #'s?
Does that involve upgraded head components ?
SC doesnt seem to make the numbers I hoped to see. Mind you I fully comprehend that 320 or more of instant power is daunting on a 4th gen. Can they not hit around 400, if the entire head was to be JUN for example ? titanium and so on..

I just havent been witness to those things yet, hence me asking. Maybe a Nos shot, but I am anti-Nos for some reason..

yup ill find that thread..
You asked how much max boost is possible, it takes a lot of modification for the 13 plus gerany got.

Power varies engine to engine. Geramy was on a built motor, different than stock.

On a stock h23 vtec, 01ludeness on pp broke 300 o. 8psi.

But again, every engine varies. Supporting mods, tune, internals....no two builds will net tbe same power. You asked if its possible, I said yes.

There is a ton of research to be done, as blake mentioned.

Hitting 400 with a jrsc would be difficult, not worth the time money or hassle to really attempt.. The charger itself would max out before hitting that point, but who's to say its not completely impossible with a good bit of engine work.


If you want high numbers...go turbo. Everything has its pros and cons, I personally enjoy n/a more for the instant power since even a jrsc has a slight delay. Fwd cars with high tq aren't that much fun on the street, in my opinion at least.
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01ludeness on pp broke 300 o. 8psi.

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You asked how much max boost is possible, it takes a lot of modification for the 13 plus gerany got.

Power varies engine to engine. Geramy was on a built motor, different than stock.

On a stock h23 vtec, 01ludeness on pp broke 300 o. 8psi.

But again, every engine varies. Supporting mods, tune, internals....no two builds will net tbe same power. You asked if its possible, I said yes.

There is a ton of research to be done, as blake mentioned.

Hitting 400 with a jrsc would be difficult, not worth the time money or hassle to really attempt.. The charger itself would max out before hitting that point, but who's to say its not completely impossible with a good bit of engine work.


If you want high numbers...go turbo. Everything has its pros and cons, I personally enjoy n/a more for the instant power since even a jrsc has a slight delay. Fwd cars with high tq aren't that much fun on the street, in my opinion at least.
That makes a lot of sense. Im also of the n/a persuasion. Ive yet to drive a fwd with over 300whp. I keep forgetting about that torque steer.. Would the LSD not counter that quite a bit. Ya, I dont need 500 or even 400 horse probably. Im thinking 320 is plenty. Im looking into a lot of things such as down side of sleeving vs everything else vs having a engine that can last a long time with upgraded parts and compression.. Fine lines I know, but I'm thinking good metals go a long way, at least peace of minds sake.

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i have a customer i am building a big tube header for who currently makes 283whp on 6psi. We are hoping to see 320whp with a 9psi pulley and my header

I'm guessing the engine stays put Blake?

I ask not because of that giant header being so side heavy...

^^ people told me they tip over easy.
I considered that when I bought it. And figured if we balance it each time we added to the motor and carefully move it that's not an issue.

I know you know your way around the block...
But have you had trouble with the front wheel?
We had an H22 engine (partly disassembled mind you) and the wheel lasted like 10 seconds when we went to move it some.


^^ snapped right off.


^^ I used a mini skateboard until obtaing a 4 wheel stand.
The bolt on casters are just a lot sturdier vs those held on by the one cheesy bolt type.
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i have never had a problem with it to this day. you never know i may go home to a broken caster and i am going to blame you for putting that curse on me.

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