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replacing carpet

Hi guys,

I didn't see a thread on this yet.

How hard is it to remove and replace the carpet?

sometimes I go to the junkyards and i see "fresh" preludes that are in relatively good condition. I looked in one the other day and the carpet was almost perfect. and even if the carpets was muddied, it would still be better than mine (mine = holes in it... super nasty.. if you dropped it you lost it kinda deal.)

I was going to go with tearing it out and spraying a bed liner on. but if this is cheaper, it would certainly also look better...
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It's not too bad to remove the carpet. Basically you'll need to pull the front seats, the rear seat bottom, the e-brake cover, the shifter surround, and the door sills. If I remember correctly, there is one small section under the center console, behind the stereo, which you'll have to cut in order to remove it. Then installation is the reverse.

Do yourself a favor and practice on a car in the junkyard, but not on the donor car that has the carpet that you'll want to buy. I used to do this whenever I was going to tackle a job that I haven't done before. That way you won't damage your own stuff if you do something wrong.

I'd stay away from bed liner for the interior of your lude. But that's my opinion LOL.
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It's not too bad to remove the carpet. Basically you'll need to pull the front seats, the rear seat bottom, the e-brake cover, the shifter surround, and the door sills. If I remember correctly, there is one small section under the center console, behind the stereo, which you'll have to cut in order to remove it. Then installation is the reverse.

Do yourself a favor and practice on a car in the junkyard, but not on the donor car that has the carpet that you'll want to buy. I used to do this whenever I was going to tackle a job that I haven't done before. That way you won't damage your own stuff if you do something wrong.

I'd stay away from bed liner for the interior of your lude. But that's my opinion LOL.
^^ this
I used to go in there with a few length phillips screwdrivers, a couple of sockets and a door panel puller and commence to pulling apart interiors for a panel here, a glove box, or a cluster there... You'll need a few tools, but not a lot.
One day I gutted the whole inside just to see how fast I could without breaking anything. Even the sunroof was laying in the trunk when I left....I think I grabbed a citizen clock (with cover) and an inside quarter window molding.
Left everything else neatly placed inside the car for others to easily grab.
Didn't know my 49 year old (then) fat @$$ could still squeeze into the confined spaces. lol

Being in Florida, ya might consider pulling the back seat out first and have the trunk open for max ventilation. Gets pretty hot in there sitting in the middle of a gravel parking lot.

And it seems dang near impossible to remove the brittle rear view mirror screw cover completely intact...unless you hit on the rare not brittle one.
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And it seems dang near impossible to remove the brittle rear view mirror screw cover completely intact...unless you hit on the rare not brittle one.
Lol. Im glad you mentioned that cause I had the same result very recently when I pulled mine down to take out that awful siren. I looked at it for a moment wondering if I should even bother trying to epoxy it. Nope.
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Yeah that rear view mirror cover wasn't designed well to withstand the test of time. I have a spare in case I ever need to remove mine, since I know I'll break the tabs off when I do. I've already removed the little speaker inside there, so really the only reason to remove it is if the mirror breaks.
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It's a 3g thing, you wouldn't understand.
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^^^ LMAO!! I guess either emathew's works correctly or it doesn't work at all! Mine is currently out of the car, but it is intermittent. I am sure it has something to do with the door switches not making contact as they should so need to "rebuild them" and see.

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Lol. Im glad you mentioned that cause I had the same result very recently when I pulled mine down to take out that awful siren. I looked at it for a moment wondering if I should even bother trying to epoxy it. Nope.
Yep, Broke mine too... And I also snagged that when I went to get my suspension parts from a local guy parting out his Lude. I took the whole assembly cause not only did the cover break, but so did the plastic base that it clips to. Going to do some "fiberglass-type" epoxy work to see if I can fix it and make it stronger than it was before.
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Oh, and I agree... I wouldn't go with replacing the carpet with bedliner in my car. You would get so much road noise! If anything, look into doing some noise suppression. The "Lizard-Skin" works well from the reviews I have seen. They have a paint on heat barrier and a noise barrier in a house paint type of can. I haven't looked into any comparisons of that to the Dynamat stuff as far as quality/amount of sound deadening, heat insulation, weight & cost of each one.
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It's not too bad to remove the carpet. Basically you'll need to pull the front seats, the rear seat bottom, the e-brake cover, the shifter surround, and the door sills. If I remember correctly, there is one small section under the center console, behind the stereo, which you'll have to cut in order to remove it. Then installation is the reverse.

Do yourself a favor and practice on a car in the junkyard, but not on the donor car that has the carpet that you'll want to buy. I used to do this whenever I was going to tackle a job that I haven't done before. That way you won't damage your own stuff if you do something wrong.

I'd stay away from bed liner for the interior of your lude. But that's my opinion LOL.
What about using bed liner in the trunk? Thinking of getting or making a mold and spraying it because the cardboard garbage in my trunk in is pretty bad shape.
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^^^ LMAO!! I guess either emathew's works correctly or it doesn't work at all! Mine is currently out of the car, but it is intermittent. I am sure it has something to do with the door switches not making contact as they should so need to "rebuild them" and see.



Yep, Broke mine too... And I also snagged that when I went to get my suspension parts from a local guy parting out his Lude. I took the whole assembly cause not only did the cover break, but so did the plastic base that it clips to. Going to do some "fiberglass-type" epoxy work to see if I can fix it and make it stronger than it was before.

Normally I'm not a weizenheimer to the newbs, but matt has a 5th gen.lol

I got to trying out new ideas on the screw cover because every now and then the rear mirror will just come unscrewed and fall off, ripping that fragile cover off.

Now the plastic in the dawg-gone accords are still nice n supple. That tells me the screw cover was an R&D thing testing out a polymer for future use...afterall, much of the Preludes parts n pieces were R&D.

Many times the passenger seat belt sensor goes awry and develops a mind of it's own. I've read unplugging the sensor under the seat solves that rogue (and random) alarm. I dunno, I just kept the seat belt buckled when I had 3g cars.
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Many times the passenger seat belt sensor goes awry and develops a mind of it's own. I've read unplugging the sensor under the seat solves that rogue (and random) alarm. I dunno, I just kept the seat belt buckled when I had 3g cars.
This didn't work for me, which is why I attacked the speaker with a screwdriver and popped it off. The light is still on, but I can't really see it from my side unless I move my head over towards the passenger seat while looking at it. I don't need a reminder to use my seatbelt, and I'm insistent that my passengers buckle up, so there's no real need for that crap in my car LOL.
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Normally I'm not a weizenheimer to the newbs, but matt has a 5th gen.lol

I got to trying out new ideas on the screw cover because every now and then the rear mirror will just come unscrewed and fall off, ripping that fragile cover off.

Now the plastic in the dawg-gone accords are still nice n supple. That tells me the screw cover was an R&D thing testing out a polymer for future use...afterall, much of the Preludes parts n pieces were R&D.

Many times the passenger seat belt sensor goes awry and develops a mind of it's own. I've read unplugging the sensor under the seat solves that rogue (and random) alarm. I dunno, I just kept the seat belt buckled when I had 3g cars.
Sorry about that... I figured since it was in the 3G section he was referring to a 3G Prelude.

As far as the I disconnected both underseat connectors and that solved the "Non-Passenger" in the seat issue, but if the car is running, and the passenger seatbelt is unbuckled, and the passenger door is opened, (Basically dropping someone off) then the dinger goes off and doesn't stop unless I turn off the car, and it will stay off when I turn it back on again.

Yeah, I've seen some R&D plastics on production cars... My 78 Skylark had plastic inside panels and the left and the right would be made of different plastics... One would be flexible and the other would become hard and brittle. One would discolor and the other not. Or maybe it was just a bad batch or one just got more polymer. Who knows. But yeah, those panels are definitely brittle... May as well be made of chicken egg shells!

And to throw in my Weizenheimer comment... "You know, there's this neat chemical stuff called Loctite that works wonders at keeping screws from backing out"!

But seriously, the red Loctite is the best. Be sure you have some new or should I say screws with "non-worn" heads in there and use a good screwdriver when taking them back out. Not a fan of Loctite or of it dripping?

Well...

Another trick I read about is using fishing line as a nut or bolt retainer. Just put a small piece in the threaded hole and and start your screw. It acts as a nylon lock-nut.
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This didn't work for me, which is why I attacked the speaker with a screwdriver and popped it off. The light is still on, but I can't really see it from my side unless I move my head over towards the passenger seat while looking at it. I don't need a reminder to use my seatbelt, and I'm insistent that my passengers buckle up, so there's no real need for that crap in my car LOL.
I am the same way. EVERYONE buckles up or they don't ride. My babies even know and will tell if someone doesn't have their setbelt on and I start moving...

And that darn Seatbelt buzzer... I seriously think it's the door switches, which also control the dome/courtesy lights. I am going to investigate mine cause my dome/courtesy lights don't come on every time I open my doors and I can wiggle them with my hand and the lights will flicker and/or come on when I do. So maybe I can fix both issues at one time!
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I am the same way. EVERYONE buckles up or they don't ride. My babies even know and will tell if someone doesn't have their setbelt on and I start moving...

And that darn Seatbelt buzzer... I seriously think it's the door switches, which also control the dome/courtesy lights. I am going to investigate mine cause my dome/courtesy lights don't come on every time I open my doors and I can wiggle them with my hand and the lights will flicker and/or come on when I do. So maybe I can fix both issues at one time!
It's easy to clean the door switches. Take one out and you will see. Just don't let the wire fall back into the door or you'll either be fishing or removing the rear inner panel to get the wire back.

My door switches are working perfectly, so I know it's not that. I got tired of troubleshooting it so I did the more permanent fix as far as the buzzer goes. I just wish I would have pulled the bulbs up there at that time.
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My black car did what you described Tony. Even if you buckled the belt after the passenger was gone.
My red car was an intermitant/random thing. I did what you did Mike with the red car. And the screw cover shattered.
But the one in the black car (which belongs to my son now) is perfect. So I used to just restart the car instead of chancing the chicken eggshell breaking. Nowadays...no passengers allowed.lol

I managed to find about a half dozen screw covers in junkyard cars that were 'virgin' and even got a couple off without them breaking. Then they broke installing them.

One summer I probably pillaged 25 to 30 Preludes to learn. There were 2-3/ week arriving at nearby junkyards.. for like 4 months...mostly broken auto trannies.

But not once did I remove the carpet from a 3g car.
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It's easy to clean the door switches. Take one out and you will see. Just don't let the wire fall back into the door or you'll either be fishing or removing the rear inner panel to get the wire back.

My door switches are working perfectly, so I know it's not that.
Kool, I will probably just do the same. Remove the buzzer and lights... I may as well not even put the board back in either! I thought about fabricating a mount for my radar detector and using the voltage wires coming up there to power it.

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My black car did what you described Tony. Even if you buckled the belt after the passenger was gone.
EXACTLY what mine is doing...

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So I used to just restart the car instead of chancing the chicken eggshell breaking. Nowadays...no passengers allowed. lol

I managed to find about a half dozen screw covers in junkyard cars that were 'virgin' and even got a couple off without them breaking. Then they broke installing them.
Even of you disconnect the circuit card while the thing is chiming, it will still be on when you plug it back in. The "brain" of that circuit is under the dash... Passenger side if my memory serves me right.

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One summer I probably pillaged 25 to 30 Preludes to learn. There were 2-3/ week arriving at nearby junkyards.. for like 4 months...mostly broken auto trannies.
WOW! 25 Preludes! That is a LOT!
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At least 25..there were like 3 or 4 there at the same time. And there are 3 yards within 30 minutes of our home...
My son and I get emails from all 3 when 79-01 preludes arrive. That summer we were like 'oh no..not another email'. lol.

Not one good splash guard was found, not one good antenna, and not one good cardboard spare tire cover. But I have a 91 shell out back packed with parts for restoring a pair of 91's I had back then.
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Is there a website where you subscribe to get those emails and is it nation-wide or just for your local places? We have a BUNCH of salvage yards all over the city... 3 of them are LKQ Sites, which is National, but I didn't see anywhere to sign up for "new arrivals" notification.
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