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4WS Swap

I tried searching on the forums for a topic on this but only found so related on 4th gen and 5th gen preludes.
I own a 1988 Prelude with regular 2ws and I was wondering how hard is it to swap it over to 4ws? or a better question would be where could I acquire (if there is one) a 4ws swap kit. I already checked the local junkyards and have only found until now 2ws Preludes.
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Re: 4WS Swap

Try car-parts.com.
About a year ago my son found a 4ws system already pulled for about $300 not too far from our home.
You may have to be patient as these things are getting pretty rare.

There is no 'kit' to do that...
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Re: 4WS Swap

Under what part selection would it be under?
For $300 that sounds like a real good deal, it doesn't surprise me much that they are becoming rare because the 80s happened quite a while ago. lol.
As for the kit I pretty much expected that there wouldn't be one because it'd be too easy then.
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Re: 4WS Swap

There is a pretty comprehensive write-up here:

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Re: 4WS Swap

I did this swap on my first 3rd gen, which was an S model. It's not terribly difficult, as long as none of the bolts are seized in the control arm bushings. If these are seized the job becomes a lot more difficult. The only way to remove these is to cut them, which also destroys the bushings. Before you take on this, or even buy the parts, you should raise your car up and check these bolts to see if they are seized on your car. This way you can order any of the bolts and bushings that you will need to cut and have them on hand when you do the swap. The other thing to keep in mind is that some of the hardware has been discontinued, so you'll definitely want to keep these parts from the donor car.

After having done this swap, I probably wouldn't do it again on a car that had seized bolts because of the hassle of dealing with that. It was the first thing that I did to a 3rd gen (besides regular maintenance), and was a good learning experience for me. It's also what got me started down the road to my addiction to 3rd gens. When I was shopping for a new 3rd gen I just kept looking for a 4ws model so I wouldn't have to mess with this swap again.
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I did this swap on my first 3rd gen, which was an S model. It's not terribly difficult, as long as none of the bolts are seized in the control arm bushings. If these are seized the job becomes a lot more difficult. The only way to remove these is to cut them, which also destroys the bushings. Before you take on this, or even buy the parts, you should raise your car up and check these bolts to see if they are seized on your car. This way you can order any of the bolts and bushings that you will need to cut and have them on hand when you do the swap. The other thing to keep in mind is that some of the hardware has been discontinued, so you'll definitely want to keep these parts from the donor car.

After having done this swap, I probably wouldn't do it again on a car that had seized bolts because of the hassle of dealing with that. It was the first thing that I did to a 3rd gen (besides regular maintenance), and was a good learning experience for me. It's also what got me started down the road to my addiction to 3rd gens. When I was shopping for a new 3rd gen I just kept looking for a 4ws model so I wouldn't have to mess with this swap again.

lol!!! Mike you sill man.(Poor guy had a hard time with his)

Just like Mike I too did this swap, and while it is fairly easy to do, you need to have all parts on you when doing this swap.
Bolts, bushings, splitter, hoses, tie rods(replacements cause they old ones are probably damaged, etc...)
And make sure you have access to impact tools as well as the known metric sized wrenches and sockets.

Not having the right tools for the right job will turn this simple swap into a nightmare....
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Re: 4WS Swap

If I were to order any of these would it be a complete setup or just part of what I need for a complete 4ws swap?
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Re: 4WS Swap

You would need to contact each of them and see what they include. We have no way of knowing what they might include, but I suspect they are selling just the front steering rack.
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