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spare wheel

looks like it's all about the spares lately...

So, the air leaked out of my spare... nice... the guys at firestone said they don't replace those tires, you need to buy a new one.. yet I see spare donut tires for sale by themselves online. which direction should I take on this?
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Re: spare wheel

A donut is lighter but I think you're limited on speed. I wouldn't wanna take a corner on a donut.Think donuts are just for getting you home.
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Im sorry. When I said spare I meant donut. I know the disadvantages of driving with one but I prefer it over a heavy spare wheel
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Re: spare wheel

Not sure I understand your guys at Firestone...how is replacing it different than buying a new one? Or do they not mount them on the wheel (which I still don't understand), and are saying you have to buy a whole new tire/wheel assembly?
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Re: spare wheel

Any Honda car at the junkyard with a 100mm 4 bolt pattern shared the same type donut. About $15.

http://www.wheelsupport.com/honda-bolt-patterns/

Did you try refilling it with air?
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Not sure I understand your guys at Firestone...how is replacing it different than buying a new one? Or do they not mount them on the wheel (which I still don't understand), and are saying you have to buy a whole new tire/wheel assembly?
your sharing my not understanding on the matter. I forgot what their justification or reasoning was but that's just what they said, they don't replace that tire.... maybe there is not enough money in it for them. and for your last question the answer is what I'm asking in the thread. because I directed that same question to the guys at firestone and they said yes, you need to buy a whole 'nother wheel (donut). then I went home and found replacement tires for the donut at 55ish bucks.

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Any Honda car at the junkyard with a 100mm 4 bolt pattern shared the same type donut. About $15.

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Did you try refilling it with air?
thanks, maybe I'll try that route though I wouldn't mind paying for a new tire for the donut if I can get it done. is there a certain year where that is no longer applicable as far as the donut being the same? yea I tried filling it with air, passed right through..
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Re: spare wheel

If you want to stay with the donut just buy one online and take it to a small tire business. They'll mount it on the rim for you. I did the same for a donut on my 4g. For my 5g I found a steel rim and had a lowpro tire fitted. Took up the same space as the donut and I wasn't afraid to run a few miles on it. Both are viable options.
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+1. Tire Rack sells the tires (Kumho makes a variety of sizes), and someone will be more interested in your business. I think Firestone just isn't interested in a small dollar job.
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+1. Tire Rack sells the tires (Kumho makes a variety of sizes), and someone will be more interested in your business. I think Firestone just isn't interested in a small dollar job.
I think your right, I might go that route. Thanks.
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Re: spare wheel

^^i just threw my spare out in the garage somewhere and replaced it with a full size rim and tire in my trunk. it raises the floor like 2" but man when i drove to arkansas i was sooooo friggen happy i had a full size spare instead of that dinky ass spare 700 miles away from home
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^^i just threw my spare out in the garage somewhere and replaced it with a full size rim and tire in my trunk. it raises the floor like 2" but man when i drove to arkansas i was sooooo friggen happy i had a full size spare instead of that dinky ass spare 700 miles away from home
I had a full size extra but I ended up throwing it away. It is weigh heavier then the donut and I didn't want to lose the trunk room. Plus I live in a smallish apartment, no room.
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^^i just threw my spare out in the garage somewhere and replaced it with a full size rim and tire in my trunk. it raises the floor like 2" but man when i drove to arkansas i was sooooo friggen happy i had a full size spare instead of that dinky ass spare 700 miles away from home
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It's usually not about being 700 miles from home, though -- it's about being 50-100 miles from someplace you can repair or replace the tire (even when you're 700 miles from home), assuming you don't have a can of Slime to bring it back to life. East of the Mississippi, I can't think of too many places you're 100 miles from nowhere these days. Even on some really long, empty cross-country drives out West, I tucked a plug kit and an electric tire pump into the tool kit, and never felt anxious about having the donut back there. Plus, tires are really hard to kill these days -- you either have to puncture it through the sidewall, or have a structural failure. I can count less than a handful of times in my life I've had a tire so FUBAR it couldn't be repaired on the side of the road...most of the time, swapping to the donut was more a matter of convenience. I think the longest mandatory trip on the donut was after a really spectacular blowout in the Odyssey in the middle of Alligator Alley, which is about as remote as you can get in Florida -- we had to drive about 70 miles into Naples before we could stop at Sam's Club for a new tire. So unless you're traversing the Great Nevada Desert (where BFE goes to get lost) regularly, the donut is OK.
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I hit a screw on a busy highway one morning. Tire went flat. Put on the donut and drove the speed the sidewall said not to exceed. Speed limit was posted at 60. Donut said 50 max.

Never been so scared in my whole life. I'm going 50 in the morning commute with 3 lanes of motorists and trucks whizzing by me 70-80 mph.
After that I've had a full size spare, an inflator, plugs, can of fix-o-flat and the 1-800 number for AAA handy whenever I have to drive on the interstate.
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It's usually not about being 700 miles from home, though -- it's about being 50-100 miles from someplace you can repair or replace the tire (even when you're 700 miles from home), assuming you don't have a can of Slime to bring it back to life. East of the Mississippi, I can't think of too many places you're 100 miles from nowhere these days. Even on some really long, empty cross-country drives out West, I tucked a plug kit and an electric tire pump into the tool kit, and never felt anxious about having the donut back there. Plus, tires are really hard to kill these days -- you either have to puncture it through the sidewall, or have a structural failure. I can count less than a handful of times in my life I've had a tire so FUBAR it couldn't be repaired on the side of the road...most of the time, swapping to the donut was more a matter of convenience. I think the longest mandatory trip on the donut was after a really spectacular blowout in the Odyssey in the middle of Alligator Alley, which is about as remote as you can get in Florida -- we had to drive about 70 miles into Naples before we could stop at Sam's Club for a new tire. So unless you're traversing the Great Nevada Desert (where BFE goes to get lost) regularly, the donut is OK.
ive been on the other side when your pulling a tire thats been filled with slime...its a nightmare so i'll never do it. The instance im talking about, there was no chance a plug or patch would fix that tire. the outside shredded from camber, like you touch it and your hand was bleeding shredded.

since i have an entire spare set of wheels and tires, i just keep one on deck as a 5th wheel instead of spending 100+ on the road specially during vacation (college student life)
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I called a place called economy tire, I don't think there is a cheaper sounding place than that and they told me they would not do it because it just was not possible.. has anyone here ever had it done? sounds like I might be driving over to U-pull it soon.
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I worked in two different tire stores over the years, one was a large Goodyear shop and the other was a small operation. We never replaced a tire on a donut spare rim at either shop. We always advised the customer that they had to buy a new tire/rim combo if it needed to be replaced.
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I worked in two different tire stores over the years, one was a large Goodyear shop and the other was a small operation. We never replaced a tire on a donut spare rim at either shop. We always advised the customer that they had to buy a new tire/rim combo if it needed to be replaced.
Yup, I guess I'll be making a purchase.
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Why is that?
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Why is that?
I'm going to say preference. All they would make off of that would be the mount fee. The first place I went to with my new rubber and old donut rim, had no problem mounting it for me. Charged me 10bux and I was out the door.
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Shop policy I suppose. I was told that we didn't replace those. I didn't ask why, I was a good worker and just did as I was told back then. Oh how things have changed.
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That's what I suspected, but didn't want to jump to a conclusion. Short-sighted -- places like that, I thank 'em, take my business elsewhere, and advise others to do likewise.
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