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Tire question (1989 Si)

This may be dumb, but I seldom have any questions about Preludes because the car asks for so little.

My wife has a pristine 1989 Prelude:
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She hit a brick and ruined a tire on it yesterday. It had a nice set of Michelin X MXV-4 195 60r14s on it, and that tire is no longer made by Michelin.

1. So, does anyone know of a source of a similar replacement tire?

2. Or if I end up buying a new set of tires, are Fuzion Touring ok? They are made in the correct size, are cheap and Consumer Reports says that they are ok.

3. A friend has a set of Michelins almost new, 195 70 14s, that he would sell me. Would the difference in size not be a problem since I would be changing all my tires?

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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

Looking at the choices on the Tire Rack website, it seems that in comparison to other tires in that size, the Fuzions are rather noisy...you might hear about that until the tires wear out! I've had direct experience with the Kumho Solus -- had a set on my ex's Element -- they were a decent tire. But were it me, I'd get the General Altimaxs...I've had decent results from Generals before, and they come with a $50 rebate, which makes them almost as cheap as the Fuzions.



The 195/70s won't hurt the car, since you're changing the set, but since they're taller, the speedo will read a bit slow, and if the car's equipped with ABS (can't remember whether 3d gens had it), it'll confuse the ABS...it'll kick in a little early for a taller tire.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

Some thirds had abs Jamie. They called it ALB.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

From the looks of it the Fuzion Touring is a VERY cheap tire. As with everything, especially tires, you get what you pay for. The grip level and longevity of a cheap tire is generally much lower than the premium brands. All tires need a D.O.T. approval to be allowed on the road, so there is at least some guarantee that a tire won't be complete rubbish if it has this stamp, but there is a lot that separates an OK tire from a good one, and the Michelin you had was one of the better ones. It really all depends on your budget but spending the extra money now could save you in the long run. Unfortunately it looks as though not many companies still make a 195/60-14. Your best bet might be to go into the local tire shop and see what they have on offer. If you have only damaged one tire, then you could probably pick the best two of the remaining three, put these on the rear and just get two new tires.

As for the 195/70-14s, I'd stay away from these if at all possible. They are significantly larger than the stock tire and will throw the speedo out by around 6-7%, there could also be issues with rubbing albeit unlikely on the stock suspension. If changing tire size then it's a general rule of thumb to go no more than 3% +/- different than the stock size.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

My other option was a used Michelin to match the other three that is on eBay, but not sure if that is worth the cost since I would have a rather old set of tires when done anyway, even if they were good tires when they were new.

Thanks, guys, for the tips. I looked at the reviews for the General tires in the correct size that are on sale at Tirerack website, and for the price, they seem fine. It's not like my wife autocrosses or does freeway at 90 mph in that old Prelude, but I would like to preserve the car and keep it nice.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

Think safety first. Stay with the correct size then ask for the ratings on all the tires in your size and pick the best tire for your budget.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

I was gonna say BF goodrich Radial TAs in a H speed rating... Did not come up for 195 65 14 or 195 70 14... Yokohamas avid touring did. From the fact you've kept the set you have now so long 70$~ / tire is a good investment.

A good upsize with minimal loss in tach/mileage info is 205/70/14, which i thought was 3rd gen factory size... I know 4th gens had the 205 diameter... BF has that size and highly recommend it. But 120$/wheel... Outta your budget, but again... Tires too important to go cheep on
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

My red car (91) had touring TA tires.
They were 205's if memory serves. They were 60's.



Smooth as butter. Rode way better than the Falken 55's on the other car, touring-wise. Confidence-wise the 55's seemed to handle better.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

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A good upsize with minimal loss in tach/mileage info is 205/70/14
Whaaaaat??? I hope you mean 205/60 cos 205/70 is MASSIVE on a 3G. A 205/55 will suit equally well as a 205/60, but I thought these sizes were even rarer than the 195/60. There seems to be more options available in a 185/60 or 185/65, but I'd never recommend going any narrower than stock.

I think 4G's carried a 205/55-15 stock, at least mine did. These are almost the same overall diameter as the 3G tires, but being a 15" rim seem to be much more common.

Sub $50 per tire is crazy too, my brain can't even comprehend a tire so cheap. Due to the good ol' Aussie tax the minimum you'd expect to pay here without risking your life is at least $100+ per tire, double that for something that's any "good". I just paid $600+ for a set of Yokohama C.Drive's for the Mazda, and that was with a buy-three-get-one-free offer. My GSD3's for the 'lude cost over $1k for the set, but were well worth it.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)


^^ 55's


^^60's

The 70's might look pretty good. Ride may be a bit softer.

Note: The 4g has stock tires but is lowered an inch and a half.
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Re: Tire question (1989 Si)

Here's it on 205/45s
Trust me even though the overall diameter is about 7mm off spec I'd prefer the originals it came on, I can't believe I got rid of the OG saw blades

Forever kickin myself over that
At the end of the day there are worse things you could "invest" your money in, a good set of tyres is like paying more for your Adidas kicks as opposed to $5 slip on junk from the local store

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Whaaaaat??? I hope you mean 205/60 cos 205/70 is MASSIVE on a 3G. A 205/55 will suit equally well as a 205/60, but I thought these sizes were even rarer than the 195/60. There seems to be more options available in a 185/60 or 185/65, but I'd never recommend going any narrower than stock.


You see? It works.... Thanks for catching that. My Celica supra needed that size lol. Before i went 195/55/15 on my 3G, they were that 205/70/14 from the previous owner.
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