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Icon10 custom dual CAI.

haha like the other guy i also have amazing paint skills.
Check it out and give me some feed back on it.
I plan on installing it like that later on.



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so you like?
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the air is going to take the path of least resistance, which = the shorter ram. you'll be pulling mostly hot air into the IM.
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really :[.. damn i thought it'd work.
well i have other ideas and time.
i could figure a way were each tubing is about equall.
But why would i be pulling in hot air?just wondering? since it'll be vented rather nicely to the outside world.
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it looked from the drawing that the shorter ram was going to be in the engine bay. were you plan on dropping both filters low?
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Yes, the shorter filter would be small and custom fit in front of the door and behind the wheel, and yes they are going to be low. I just didnt draw it that way.
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I also didn't look at the second drawing. DAMN your car is clean! can I have it? lol
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Haha ok, that makes sence then, so you think it'll work now?

Not bad for 1400$, no rust, i minor Minor ding, and broken fogs lights, and onyl 158k miles. haha and no you cant have it sorry.
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**** I'd give you 3g's for that thing tomorrow. I want a red 3rd gen so bad. and the only way to tell if your intake works is to get her on the dyno before and after!
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Uh... why? Other than adding weight, what purpose would two intake tubes have? You may as well add 2 mufflers, or 2 sets of valve covers.
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I must say two mufflers would be sick and if you can convert my 4 cylinder to look like a v8 with 4 cams! woo! ill take that offer.*sarcastic*

But yes, the purpose..kinda simple to say the least, more air. i actually got the idea from my step bro's 300zx with dual intake and that sounds and performs amazingly. Of course there is more to it than that.. but it will help, and te extra weight in the front would be a bonus also. much cheaper than an LSD tranny.
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But it wouldn't get any extra air, because one tubular intake isn't restrictive. It's like having a 5" exhaust system, then making it dual 5" exhaust. What rationale do you think the intake is 'limiting' the power output of the engine? Why do you think adding two tubes would give it more air?

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I must say two mufflers would be sick and if you can convert my 4 cylinder to look like a v8 with 4 cams! woo! ill take that offer.*sarcastic*

But yes, the purpose..kinda simple to say the least, more air. i actually got the idea from my step bro's 300zx with dual intake and that sounds and performs amazingly. Of course there is more to it than that.. but it will help, and te extra weight in the front would be a bonus also. much cheaper than an LSD tranny.
The reason your brother has a dual intake set up is beacause the VG30DE(T)'s have dual throttle bodies they need to breathe through seperate filters.
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i was just thinking about that, jerserytypesh. the dual throttle body does affect it alot.

and cash i have thought it through. i know intake only does so much, but still. its not limiting it, becuase it doesnt have anything to limit at the moment. and i have thought of ways to make both intakes restrctive and adding power by narrowing the tubes.. idk how to explain it but i know itll work. and if it doesnt well..then i wastesed time and money. ill dyno it and show you te sheets when i get it installed
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Adding power by narrowing the tubes? What?
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idk, how to explain it..i know it sounds retarded..but im dtermined to make it work..
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well with narrowing the tubes the air will move faster but will restrict the amount of air coming into the engine. but making the air move faster would not help the engine i would not think. allowing more air would help the engine more than speeding it up. correct me if im wrong
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im trying my own invention of the aem V2,
by restricting the air right where the air enters through the fliters and narrows to condense more air by ramming large amounts of air in a smaller tube, creating a larger vaccum, which inturn will be able to suck inmore air even though there is more tubing and two filters. physics was a good class to take haha. in theory it will work but it doesnt always work that way. but once i fabricte it il dyno it and post the sheets. lik i said if t works woo! if not wasted time and money.

and 94ludeguy, yes you are right, but by speeding up the air and then ramming it in smaller tubes iwill essentially be getting more air than a regular CAI or short ram intake, because the air will be denser and there for more compact particles in a smaller tube, than less and more spaced particles in a larger tube. but it works the same as exhuast tubing, too big does no good, and to small is terrible, but by combinding them and creating high exhuast speeds and a large enough exhuast to handle back pressure at high rpms, and your car wil gain instanly at least 10hp
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well i guess if u have the time and money to try it it cant hurt. like u said if it works awesome if not then owell it was worth a try. dont knock it till u try it haha
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seriously, thanks for the support.
even if you dont think it'll work(which im not saying you dont) thanks.
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I like the first pic design better, the one that goes into the fender. That is a true Cold air intake.
You arent drawing air from the engine bay, and let me tell you(as you know) that our motors create immense amount of heat for a Honda motor.



It's been done though, mr.Ludespeed created this for us a few years ago before he switched over to Nissan 240's

Let us know about your invention man, i like your creative spirit
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the second picture just shows in a rough estimate where the filters will end up.
Oh yea, dude oh cars run hot, even though my temp gauge barley reads a quarter up. right now my car is sucking in hott air >.> as you can see i took all the piping out.

is his thread still up? i wanna see his design if you have pictures.
shame he should stuck with the mighty 3rd gens. maybe he'll come back. haha.

sweet thanks for the support man.
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thats where i got my original idea. But I wanted to make it better so I've been pondering the dual intake aspect.
doesnt your intake still suck in hot air?

hahaha, that is very true and a very good qoute.


ohyea i wanted to ask.
what is the pipe for that connects to the orignal air filter box in the back?
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You should design your own ITB setup.
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thanks.
but what does he mean by that?
like fabricate and manifold and incorperate dual throttle bodies?
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not dual throttle bodies but QUAD throttle bodies one for each cylinder!!

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thats where i got my original idea. But I wanted to make it better so I've been pondering the dual intake aspect.
doesnt your intake still suck in hot air?

hahaha, that is very true and a very good qoute.


ohyea i wanted to ask.
what is the pipe for that connects to the orignal air filter box in the back?
the pipe that connects in the back goes to another expansion box under the IM, i pulled mine out when i had the motor out -2 lbs. haha
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What hell is up with the 3rdgens having so many expansion boxes and air fillaments... im taking that out tmorrow.

quad?! they have that, or custom making one?
that'd be so sick! running dual intakes dude i can see it now.
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