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HELP!!! 1989 Honda Prelude SI

Just got this car last night. It has 220,000 miles on it and I'm not really a car person at all... my boyfriend traded our 2000 Pontiac Grand AM GT which had 152,000 miles on it for this. It seems to drive fine, and it is clean... I am just extremely uncomfortable with it as it is an older car with what I think are high miles. The Pontiac was an automatic and this is a manual, I guess all I am asking is was it an okay trade? Or should I at least try to get the car back, which is probably a long shot... or cut my losses if I have to and try to sell it?


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Re: HELP!!! 1989 Honda Prelude SI

Or maybe if someone could just give an estimate on what it is worth? In the current drivable condition... I am just worried about it, really. I have never had a car that was 22 years old and with 220,000 miles. All I am looking for is an honest opinion based on what I know about the car. It really does look extremely maintained and clean, just concerned about the car itself, if you understand, as I'm not sure if there have been any new repairs. Mostly, I am worried about getting stuck either having to replace the transmission or motor when the car I had ran PERFECT and had been repaired to the point I do not believe it would have broken down. I have been heavily researching, but can not find how much it is worth, and even Kelly Blue Book does not got back that far in year for this car.

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Car: Honda Prelude
Style: SI
Year: 1989
Miles: 220,000
Style: Two Door
Transmission: Manual/5 Speed
Color: Black
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Your boyfriend did this trade without your permission? How? Was the title in your name or his? How much does your bf know about cars and taking care of them? It was probably kind of foolish of him to do this trade. On the surface, I'd have to say that the other person got the better deal. But it all depends on how well both cars were maintained. I use an 89 Si for a daily driver. And I wouldn't hesitate to drive it across the country today if needed. That's because I've gone completely through this car and know it inside out.

Probably the number one thing to do is have the timing belt inspected or replaced. If that breaks or slips you'll be looking at valve damage, which would mean rebuilding the head. Since it's a manual transmission, you don't have to worry as much about having problems with that because they are much more reliable than automatics. However clutches do wear out eventually and will need to be replaced. The b20a5 engine you have in that is extremely reliable. Keep up with regular oil changes and tune-ups and it should run well for a long time.

As far as value goes, it really depends on condition. Along with where you are located and how many 3rd gen Preludes there are in your area. In my area, my car would be worth around $2000 in a private party sale. If buying from a car dealer you could expect to pay $3000 to $4000 for it.
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Re: HELP!!! 1989 Honda Prelude SI

The car was in his name, but it was shared. He knows a little, and took a friend of his who is really into Honda's with him. We always maintain our cars very, very well. The trade was for $2000 even swap, so I guess that sounds about right. Pontiac's in general around here don't sell for much, they kind of have a bad reputation. I was just unaware that even being that old they still sold that high, and I was extreamly concerned about the miles. I will have the timing belt checked out, and probably have the car looked over again. Are there any other specific suggestions of other common problems to look for in this car? Also, thank you so much for responding, I really appreciate it, you have no idea. That kind of settles my nerves a good bit hearing it most likely won't blow up in my face.
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Well depends on how you look at the scenario. We love preludes here, so we'll say good for you! You should warn your BF that the prelude he bought isn't like civics or accords or intergas. It's a rare car where very little works with other Hondas, engine wise. Parts wise, you have support. Performance will take time and patience.

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First you need to slap your boyfriend for trading your perfectly good car without your permission, then you need to give him a huge hug for buying a prelude!
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First you need to slap your boyfriend for trading your perfectly good car without your permission, then you need to give him a huge hug for buying a prelude!
your alot of help travis lol...
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Well depends on how you look at the scenario. We love preludes here, so we'll say good for you! You should warn your BF that the prelude he bought isn't like civics or accords or intergas. It's a rare car where very little works with other Hondas, engine wise. Parts wise, you have support. Performance will take time and patience.

You're right about pontiacs, a lot of people don't give those cars their due. But you got 2,000 with a car, so that's a win win. Pics please and welcome to Preludezone!
There was no cash in the trade... it was just an even swap. And now I guess it's a project car. It needs a new transmission, although it does run, but gears slightly grind and I don't want to make it any worse. Timing chain doesn't look all that bad, but it doesn't look new either so I'll probably do that along with the transmission. Also needs some new relays, Springs (One on front passenger side has a big crack, but not broke yet), definitely tires (They're really bad), spark plugs and wires, and I'm not sure of anything else yet. All fluids were checked and they looked good, an oil change will be done this weekend. I do like the car a lot, don't get me wrong... but when we were looking to trade our car, we were looking to not really put work into it, or at least not something big like the transmission. Later down the line the body will need work, there is a bit of rust over the back tires, but I guess that is to be expected in older Honda's.

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First you need to slap your boyfriend for trading your perfectly good car without your permission, then you need to give him a huge hug for buying a prelude!
Might slap him, then kick him first, because it is costing us now. Once it's done and is running good I'll give him a hug, ha ha.
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Re: HELP!!! 1989 Honda Prelude SI

Also, if anyone has any suggestions of where to find a good transmission for this car, I'm interested in hearing. I don't want to go get one out of a junkyard because it wouldn't be guaranteed to work, and I don't want to waste the money if it doesn't and have to buy yet another transmission. I want something guaranteed. I'm open to all suggestions.

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atleast honda parts are relatively cheap

good luck with the 3rd gen you will love it soon enough once you figure it all out
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lmao what a horrible trade
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lmao what a horrible trade
Yeah, tell me about it... I'm stuck with it now, so may as well make the best of it. I figure I'll probably keep it and restore the hell out of it. Maybe one day I'll sell it, but at the moment I very much doubt it's worth much at all, especially due to transmission problems. Also, putting the money into fixing it, I probably won't want to sell it at all for awhile. It's a new project now, that's all I have to say.
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Re: HELP!!! 1989 Honda Prelude SI

1st of all, let me say that i agree with what others say. Slap the h377 out of him for doing the trade. BUUUTTT, on the other hand, congrats on getting a Prelude. at least he didn't trade for something not worth anything. I had an 89 with 290K on it. and it was a very hard 290K from previous owner. it ran great except that i develped a minor oil leak from where the car was ran so hard before i bought it. I would still be driving it if not for the deer that i hit in it. The prelude has PLENTY of life left in it. Now, as for the transmission, what exactly is it doing? If i read correctly you said the gears grind slightly, is it all gears, or certain gears? Someone chime in here and tell me if i'm wrong, could this be a clutch issue instead of actual transmission issue? and if it is by chance really a bad transmission, there are plenty of resources on PZ.com to get a transmission for a decent price i do believe. I wish you luck with your prelude and hope you enjoy it. I know i did enjoy mine till that darn deer...
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Just wanted to add a few pictures of the Prelude. Nothing special, I'll keep posting pictures as it gets fixed up.







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Looks good. Makes me miss my prelude... Question, where are the other 2 aftermarket wheels that go on the front?
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Looks good. Makes me miss my prelude... Question, where are the other 2 aftermarket wheels that go on the front?
I still have them, the tires were extremely bad, and flat. Those are just two tires I had. Just have to get new tires so I can put them back on, but the transmission has to come first. Going to look like a ghetto groover for a little bit, ha ha.
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Just a few more, wanted to show the little bit of rust damage:



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He probably traded it for better gas mileage. I would do the same cause gas ain't cheap anymore.
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^^^this^^^

You have a pretty clean example, minus the fender cancer. Go to Patterson NJ right off of the turnpike 15mins away from GWB, they have a couple of japanese motor importers, or eBay "h22 motor lsd" any japanese engines inc auctions should pop up.

They have lots of good stuff, ie transmissions for B20A. Hope this helps.
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Car looks pretty good. But you need to take care of that rust as soon as you can. It will quickly get worse.

Transmissions are cheap, especially manuals. Locally I can bet them for $55 from any one of 3 junkyards with a 30 day warranty. I've seen them on ebay for around $250 plus shipping. If it's just a problem of a little bit of grinding you can live with that for a while. First try changing the gear oil. The original flluid is actually motor oil but the consensus now seems to be to use genuine Honda MTF. I use Redline MT90 (full synthetic). I had a little bit of grinding when I first got my current lude. I switched to the MT90 and after a couple of months the grinding almost completely went away. Now it doesn't grind at all. Not sure why that happened but I'm not complaining, lol.
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Car looks pretty good. But you need to take care of that rust as soon as you can. It will quickly get worse.

Transmissions are cheap, especially manuals. Locally I can bet them for $55 from any one of 3 junkyards with a 30 day warranty. I've seen them on ebay for around $250 plus shipping. If it's just a problem of a little bit of grinding you can live with that for a while. First try changing the gear oil. The original flluid is actually motor oil but the consensus now seems to be to use genuine Honda MTF. I use Redline MT90 (full synthetic). I had a little bit of grinding when I first got my current lude. I switched to the MT90 and after a couple of months the grinding almost completely went away. Now it doesn't grind at all. Not sure why that happened but I'm not complaining, lol.
I really appreciate that. Most places, junk yards anyhow, around here will not offer any guarantee on the transmissions. What I have found online, to buy and pay someone to put it in, is damn near the same as just getting the shop to fix it. I have been heavily shopping around, called 15 different shops getting quotes, and Aamco in Cherry Hill, seems to be the best so far. I think I may stick with them, as they have already looked at the car, at no cost, and gave me a price in writing. Which is better than I can say for any of the other shops, who want to quote and give nothing in writing. At this point Aamco definitely seems to be the most competitive.
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Car looks pretty good. But you need to take care of that rust as soon as you can. It will quickly get worse.

Transmissions are cheap, especially manuals. Locally I can bet them for $55 from any one of 3 junkyards with a 30 day warranty. I've seen them on ebay for around $250 plus shipping. If it's just a problem of a little bit of grinding you can live with that for a while. First try changing the gear oil. The original flluid is actually motor oil but the consensus now seems to be to use genuine Honda MTF. I use Redline MT90 (full synthetic). I had a little bit of grinding when I first got my current lude. I switched to the MT90 and after a couple of months the grinding almost completely went away. Now it doesn't grind at all. Not sure why that happened but I'm not complaining, lol.
Also, I forgot to mention that I did change all of the fluids. That helped the grinding slightly, but it is still doing it. Would love if it stopped, but I can't wait to see if that will happen. I need a car that will run good, so it has to be fixed.
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Just for curiosity, what kind of fluid did you use for the transmission?

Don't worry too much about the transmission suddenly failing on you any time soon just because it grinds when you shift gears. All it means is that the synchronizers in the tranny are worn out. Sure, a little grinding is annoying, but you can drive it like that for a long time without worrying about it failing on you. I'm just saying you have time to look around for a better deal if you can put up with the noise.

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We wound up just taking to a shop. They are putting a newer transmission in it with lest then 100k on it. Should be done tomorrow or Saturday. I'm so hyped about it. I can't wait to take it for a ride. This is the "bf" by the way and I love the car.

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