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Old 03-01-2012, 01:09 AM
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Clutch issues again?

I believe my clutch master cylinder just took a crap on me, any suggestions on what I should do in terms of replacing it? Any brands in particular? I've been experiencing a sticky pedal and now I lost all my pedal pressure until it gets to the floor, I checked the reservoir and it was damn empty, so I have a leak somewhere. Right? I'll be searching for more info on this.
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Can someone link me a thread on bleeding the clutch for a 3rd gen please?
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Definately have a leak. I don't have a link, but on your slave cylinder there should be a bleeder valve. It's a bolt with a hole in it. You'll want to fill your clutch resevoir with DOT3 and push the clutch to the floor. Then you crack the bleeder valve open for a second and tighten back. Release clutch. Depress clutch again, crack valve, tighten valve, release clutch pedal. Do this for quite some time to make sure there is no air in the system. Also make sure you keep an eye on the clutch resevoir so you dont run out of fluid and suck air in, then you'll be back at square one. Definately will need two people, (one to press and release clutch pedal, and one to crack bleeder valve). For a mess free bleed, find a hose that fits snug on the end of the bleed valve and run that into a jar or bucket.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Thanks, I've done this in the past to fix it, but I'm unsure on how successful I was in doing the bleeding today.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

it's really hard to bleed by yourself. unless you can pump it and put a giant weight on the brake pedal to keep it compressed while you open the bleeder valve. so if you have another person that could help out, you should get better results. also if your fluid is black you'll want to check both cylinders to make sure they are not leaking. if they are then you need to replace them otherwise good luck with the bleeding!
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Id reccomend replacing both the MC and the SC at the same time. I had my MC go out bled for 45min only to find out I needed a new SC too. If ur MC is bad u will feel fluid/grease on the plunger behind the clutch pedal.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Bleed it with a slight improvement. I believe it's drivable for a little while.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Make sure you keep the fluid level up or you will have to bleed it again. Look above your accelerator pedal and see if it is wet in that area. The master cylinder is mounted right there, and if it's leaking it will leak down the inside of the firewall in the area of the accelerator pedal.

It's also common for your slave cylinder to leak. Was it wet looking before you bled it?

Another common spot for the clutch system to leak is the soft line that runs from the passenger fender, under the corner of the battery tray, and over to the slave cylinder. Look at that and see if it's wet.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

I got a master at Autozone and there wasn't a spring to push the pedal back.You'd push it in but it wouldn't spring back. That was in my hand without being installed.It's easy to bleed yourself as long as you have a 2x4 available. Just pump a few times and jam the 2x4 against the pedal and the seat. That keeps it to the floor pretty good.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Make sure to inspect the clutch hose as well. They dry rot. After changing the master, then slave, the hose started to leak enough not to hold pressure on my lude. . .



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Re: Clutch issues again?

My dad wants me to change it at his house which is some 60 miles away, normally this wouldn't be a problem, but my concern is, would this problem cause the clutch to partially engage and slip? I don't want my new clutch to glaze over lol. What do you guys think?
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Re: Clutch issues again?

The clutch itself pushes the throwout bearing back so there won't be a problem at all. Bring a few bottles of brake fluid with ya .
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Only issue would be changing gears, it wouldn't slip tho
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Yeah. As soon as your cruising, You're golden.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Thanks guys, I really wish I fixed this earlier, I felt the pedal wanting to stick the past few weeks, I could have diagnosed it, but I didn't. Words of wisdom, don't be lazy.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

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Make sure you keep the fluid level up or you will have to bleed it again. Look above your accelerator pedal and see if it is wet in that area. The master cylinder is mounted right there, and if it's leaking it will leak down the inside of the firewall in the area of the accelerator pedal.

It's also common for your slave cylinder to leak. Was it wet looking before you bled it?

Another common spot for the clutch system to leak is the soft line that runs from the passenger fender, under the corner of the battery tray, and over to the slave cylinder. Look at that and see if it's wet.
Hey man that was the exact place the leak was, we just checked, it was leaking near the fitting above the bleeder valve on the slave.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Alright here's something I learned, maybe others knew this as well lol. The part is discontinued at all auto parts stores and from honda. The only ways to get it are to get a used one or have one made, that's what I'm going to do.
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Are you sure? I got my slave from Autozone and there was no problem with availability. Got it last Summer.
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It isn't the slave, it's the clutch line. I'm having a braided SS line made on monday.
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Yeah thanks though, the upside is the clutch line won't take long to install and it's easy, downside is the part will end up costing more the double compared to the slave and master lol.
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I recently picked up one of the ebay stainless steel clutch lines for $30 shipped and have had no trouble with it. I've heard they're pretty good quality.
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I recently picked up one of the ebay stainless steel clutch lines for $30 shipped and have had no trouble with it. I've heard they're pretty good quality.
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Re: Clutch issues again?

Almost making me want to wait the extra few days, I don't like driving my beater corolla -__- that mofo is dangerous.

Are you guys talking about this clutch line? Honda Prelude 88-91 Stainless steel clutch hose line | eBay
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Almost making me want to wait the extra few days, I don't like driving my beater corolla -__- that mofo is dangerous.

Are you guys talking about this clutch line? Honda Prelude 88-91 Stainless steel clutch hose line | eBay
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It bolted right up? I'm just wondering since the photo posted is pretty generic.
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Yep it fit fine, it also came with banjo bolts and washers.
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Mine was from a different seller, so I can't vouch for this one. But I wouldn't hesitate to try that one if I was in need of one.
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I replaced the line, now I just wanna remind anyone doing this to make sure that the banjo fittings are torqued down properly with the bolts, if not then you will not get anywhere while bleeding the clutch, you'll hear the sound of liquid spraying and see the fluid coming out from which ever end is loose. Yeah, these assholes get torqued down a lot.
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