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I have a 91 honda prelude,

New clutch kit

New rebuilt b21a1

when i was driving it would not even move, in any gear, 1,2,3,4,5, R

When it was in gear and i put my foot on the gas it would act like it wanted to die, the speedomitor and rpms would go up a little and down. now it does not even want to start. Like i said the car drove fine, and it almost has everything new. I retimed the engine and also retorcked the head down. I am now lost. Please help
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:36 PM
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It also will not start now, it acts like it is missing.
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I would attribute the car not moving because the clutch isn't engaging.

As for the car not starting, is it getting fuel? Does it have fuel? lol Are you getting a spark. Is it cranking?
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Yeah it has spark and you can smell the fuel, its a pain
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Re: Need Major Help

If you've got gas, spark and the timing is correct I'd do a compression test.

Are you sure the plugs aren't fouled and simple stuff like the plug wire order is correct? Is your MAF or whatever meters the air on these things good?

Did it ever run right after the rebuild?
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it ran realy good, the guy that did it for me forgot to retorch head down, i figured since it wasnt driving while it was in gear it was compression, so i retorched head down to the right torque. The plugs are old but they have been fine, idk tho ... its not throwing any codes with the ECU also
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I'd still do a compression test. Probably not plugs, but they are cheap. Maybe try some new ones?
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What is "not driving while in gear"? Do you mean you're in gear giving it gas and RPMs go up but the car doesn't move? That's your clutch not engaging.

If you give it gas and RPMs -don't- go up and the car doesn't move that's completely different.

Can you take it back to the guy that did the work?
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the speadometer goes up a little, while my foot is on gas, but it acts like it wants to die, it does not move what so ever, does not matter what gear i am in, now the damn thing does not want to start lol....
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the guy that did everything does not want anything to do with my car, its a pain he says.
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the speadometer goes up a little, while my foot is on gas, but it acts like it wants to die, it does not move what so ever, does not matter what gear i am in, now the damn thing does not want to start lol....
Wat? Did the speedometer or tachometer go up when you hit the gas?

speedometer - measures speed
tachometer - measures RPMs

The speedometer shouldn't move unless the car/transmission is moving.
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the guy that did everything does not want anything to do with my car, its a pain he says.
He is a dick
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:58 PM
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im sorry another thing, while in gear the car would move like one inch then stop, this happend untle it got to the point of not starting, just keeps on turning over, it realy sounds like it wants to start
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they both move, but when i put foot on gas it wants to die, idk man this car is acting weird, i put 2,000 in it, now im broke
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:11 AM
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Re: Need Major Help

For future reference, don't replace things until the problem is fixed, track down the problem first. Smelling fuel doesn't necessarily mean that you are getting fuel... in my mind. If the head wasn't torqued down properly the head gasket will blow, you will have no compression, etc. Let me ask you this. Does the car have oil? lol
Buying parts from the junk yard will save you a lot of cash. What kind of clutch did you put in it? Are you trying to start it in gear?
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Re: Need Major Help

It sounds like when my valves got fuked up... Compression test will give an answer... But that's the way case scenario.. check you time,yes again, firing order, and your grounds, connectors... Everything!!!!

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leakdown test ? so that if u are losing compression at least u will know where its going.
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could burnt bad spark plugs cause car to run funny and not drive while in any gear, only moves by like 1 inch then trys and die?
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Re: Need Major Help

Bad spark plugs could make it run like crap.

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not drive while in any gear
You need to clarify what this means. When this is happening will it rev to 4-5k normally in neutral?
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For future reference, don't replace things until the problem is fixed, track down the problem first. Smelling fuel doesn't necessarily mean that you are getting fuel... in my mind. If the head wasn't torqued down properly the head gasket will blow, you will have no compression, etc. Let me ask you this. Does the car have oil? lol
Buying parts from the junk yard will save you a lot of cash. What kind of clutch did you put in it? Are you trying to start it in gear?
I disagree!!!! Le motorcycle has been repaired by me replacing random ass parts until then starting it up and seeing if it works hahah
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ahem! le prelude is not le motorcycle...
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Re: Need Major Help

it does not rev normel in n as same as any other gear
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it does not rev normel in n as same as any other gear
Have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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ahem! le prelude is not le motorcycle...
OMG DON'T PRAY!!!!!!!!
hahahahahaahaah
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OMG DON'T PRAY!!!!!!!!
hahahahahaahaah

I never do !! dont worry bout dat... ^^^^



on another note, im having a very hard time understanding this thread, it borderlines on incoherent. and i'd like to help, but damn...
it could SO many different things, like a loose ground even, does it crank ? did u put new sensors in with all the other new stuff ? Check your throttle cable slack ?

Is the engine getting air ?
Did the mechanic replace all the old IM gaskets with new ones ?
You mentioned u have tired, old spark plugs, change em...
hows the distributor and coil ? Are they new ? Did your timing skip a tooth when u tried baggin' on the engine before break in ?
and more and more...


There is a test u can conduct on the fuel filter in the engine bay to see if u get an adequate supply of the goodgood... (lemme search it up for u)
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First thing is, does the fuel pump kick in now when u turn the ignition to the "on" position, ie: does it "HUMM" ? if not, check main relay

here is the little test for Honda's


EDIT: forget the master fuel relay vid... this is more in depth



im simply "throwing that out thurr", maybe it'll inspire u to search some more, i only spent 25 mins searching, but i learned more than u !!!!
no but really, it works... good luck
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on another note, im having a very hard time understanding this thread, it borderlines on incoherent. and i'd like to help, but damn...
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new plugs, it now runs, but will not move while in any gear... this car is confusing
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nice, ok... so it will rev to any speed on your tach ? feels like it has power, and idles without issues ?
if u are not going anywhere while in gear i would have to say, either your linkage is shot (play with it and listen, or look from top of tranny while friend shifts gears)
I assume u have pressure in your clutch pedal.. So it may not be your slave or master cylinder, check for leaks... Maybe your clutch fork, since your clutch kit is new
have a buddy step on the clutch whilst u go over to the engine bay and see if the clutch slave cylinder is throwing the fork out...

Thats a weird one, since u got a new trans kit... So the car doesnt budge at all ? Not even if u rev it to 3000 and give it very light, gradual clutch ?
Do u have a driveshaft ? hah!, no seriously...
wtf did this mechanic do to u ? AAAND he put old plugs in a new rebuild, greasy ****er
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will not move while in any gear... this car is confusing
Holy hell, your posts are confusing. You need to clarify this ****.

1. Does it rev normally when you hit the gas with car not in gear?
2. If you put it in 1st and slowly let the clutch out -without- giving it any gas what happens?
Does it creep forward a little?
Does it stall and die?
Can you let the clutch out all the way without stalling the car?
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x2 on this thread being confusing as hell. There is a reason I stopped posting.

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I disagree!!!! Le motorcycle has been repaired by me replacing random ass parts until then starting it up and seeing if it works hahah
Back when I was taking intro to automotive in 10th grade, we spent an entire semester rebuilding lawnmower engines. We did replace everything. lol

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Oh I beg to differ!
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