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Old 10-18-2011, 10:31 PM
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Do the chips really help?

I have a 89 2.0si 5 speed. and am looking for some guidence. i see ads for chips, and blowers and stuff. I have been in the car biz for a long time, but never paid much attention to aftermarket modifications.
what advice can you all give me...
can you significantly improve the performance of the engine by adding a $70 chip?
Is there anything that you can do for $100? how about $300? how about $500?
i would appreciatte any ideas and suggestions and links to point me in the right direction.
what experiences, what to buy, what is a waste of time and money.
looking to get a little more zip out of the old girl, but certainly not a endless money pit situation.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

Nothing a 70 chip can really do to improve performance. Those things only mess with the Air fuel mixture or change the vtec crossover point. In a unmolested engine nothing is better than the stock settings on the cpu whether obd1 or obd2. Only a standalone ecu is a "chip" that can improve but thats only after doing alot of modifications and being properly tuned and is very costly. How about a Tune up? Spark,wires,cap n rotor, gaskets, oil change. To be honest you wont significantly improve performance with aftermarket parts on these cars unless costly modifications are in place, Usually over 500 for real gains. Maybe throw a CAI "Cold Air intake" on there for about 150-200, Some NGK iridium spark plugs/wires. Only if your regular tune up has been put in place id say go for the CAI or some suspension work to get a better feel for the old girl. And if you havnt done that above ie changing plugs/wires/cap/rotor/oil/filter/air filter.^ Than do it!
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Re: Do the chips really help?

We're OBD 0 don't worry about the engine management unless you convert to OBD 1 and have some engine upgrades.

For 500 bucks you can do a few things:

An Integra cold air intake which would be like 50 bucks shipped 94-01 Acura Integra Cold-Air Intake

Then an OBX Tri-Y header OBX Tri-Y Exhaust Headers 88-91 Honda Prelude 2.0L Si | eBay

Normally you would do the exhaust, but you would benefit more with a tune up with that left over 250.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

ya those chips are some what pointless as stated above. and if you do do it and you **** it up, well you could **** yo entire whip up too. However, if you end up doing it, post your results, then everyone would have first hand experience of what happens lol
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Re: Do the chips really help?

$25 E-Bay Performance Chips Are Crap

Here you go! Results have already been posted. I stay posting mustardcat links haha!
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Re: Do the chips really help?

Chips are the stupidest things ever. I hate people who rant about how the chip in their truck is giving them 50 more horses; when in fact it's probably taking away 5-10 horses.

Don't do it.

Don't even get a CAI; $200-300 for a 6 HP increase is just as stupid. Put the money towards some actual engine modifications, or a turbo build.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

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Chips are the stupidest things ever. I hate people who rant about how the chip in their truck is giving them 50 more horses; when in fact it's probably taking away 5-10 horses.

Don't do it.

Don't even get a CAI; $200-300 for a 6 HP increase is just as stupid. Put the money towards some actual engine modifications, or a turbo build.
I've seen differences on big diesel motors when chipped.

Why pay a few hundred bucks, when you can do the ebay Integra CAI like I suggested?
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Re: Do the chips really help?

i have to chip my ecu to desable the knock sensor... and maybe add some "performance"...any sugestions on where i can get a cheap but not a piece of shiet chip.?...
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Re: Do the chips really help?

Ok, thanks guys, that is exactly what I suspected. you hear the guys raving about one of there friends putting one in and haveing great results. but you never really get to talk to the guy that actually did the mod. she is about to go out to the pole barn for the winter, and in the spring, we will do an old fashioned tune up. and ponder the CAI, and do i lose the catalytic converter if i install the headers? does that require some retuning? or bolt them on and go? i got a set of aluminum wheels off a 2003 cobalt, take offs, that fit perfectly. found a set of blank center caps. car looks pretty good for an '89. thanks again guys.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

Lol chips can also crack/burn/fry/ you name it....

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Re: Do the chips really help?

chip a BMW, get 100+ horsepower
chip a honda, car blows up
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Re: Do the chips really help?

DO NOT use any of the ebay "chips". At best they will do nothing. I've read horror stories about guys frying their ecu's by adding an ebay chip.

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Chips are the stupidest things ever. I hate people who rant about how the chip in their truck is giving them 50 more horses; when in fact it's probably taking away 5-10 horses.

Don't do it.

Don't even get a CAI; $200-300 for a 6 HP increase is just as stupid. Put the money towards some actual engine modifications, or a turbo build.
There is not CAI produced for the 3rd gen. Even the Integra intake suggested isn't a true CAI. In order for an intake to be a CAI, it must pull in air from outside the engine bay. Anything else is just a short ram intake, and really doesn't add any power. But it does make the intake sound better.

And FYI...the stock intake on 3rd gens is a factory CAI because it pulls in air from outside the engine bay.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

see this is y i wanted him to try it, every post has been a guy trollin the internet about them being horrible. if he does it then we will all know lol.

p.s. power commanders on f4i's make a huge difference lol
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The funniest thing is when you see the guys with vtec civics who have a vtec controller and think changing the crossover point on a "STOCK" engine helps and is faster. lol it cracks me up!
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Re: Do the chips really help?

The only chips I like come from Frito Lay. You can thank that other thread with the fraggin Mac and cheese. I'm so damn hungry!

Yeah if a performance part "Fits on any car" "Installs in minutes" or "Results and gains may vary" are complete sh!t. CAI on 3rd gens are for growl, but so damn sexy above 3k. Besides hp is like 20-26$ each. 15hp header x 20= 300.00, so use that as a standard.

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Re: Do the chips really help?

i usually grab the blue bag of doritos, some of the new flavors aren't that good either. ill grab the red bag if im feelin frisky
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Ive gotten addicted to sun chips lately. Delicious little things, Definitely seem to give my body a 10-15hp increase during study sessions.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

chips are a far less beneficial mod in my opinion. They will not make substantial gains on Ludes. On other vehicles such as diesels they can do wonders. But lets just be honest... You are messing with a car that has less than 200 hp... They made them pretty close to its full potential stock. The bang for your buck is not in chips at all.... Save the money and do another upgrade.
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I prefer cookies over chips
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see this is y i wanted him to try it, every post has been a guy trollin the internet about them being horrible. if he does it then we will all know lol.

p.s. power commanders on f4i's make a huge difference lol
Really? LOL, nice of you to want him to test it out for you. Try one yourself if you're so curious. The only people who've posted in this thread who don't know that these "chips" are a waste of money would be you and the OP. And I suspect that the OP is now convinced not to buy one.

And as far as chips go, I prefer original Ruffles or Nalley Salt and Vinegar chips.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

Ok, I get it! any chips must come in a bag and be made of corn or potatoes, not silicon.
Luzer, my prelude is red just like yours.
i have some other issues, going to post in the 3rd gen. section.
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Re: Do the chips really help?

lmao oh hellzz nah am i putting one in my car

+ i haz a moty so screw going fast in my car now, 65 is my speed
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