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Old 07-18-2007, 05:43 PM
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What's best for my car?

I wanna get a vtec engine. But my friends tell me its played out, almost every honda out there gots a vtec engine. Another one of my friends said I should do a engine swap for a 92-93 integra ls... another one of my friends say I should just rebuild the engine... what do you guys think I should do?
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if you want a vtec engine get the h22, there are already custom mounts made for them, but you could also boost the b20a5 (asuming thats what you have), 2 people have achieved 400whp on a boosted b20a5
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Old 07-18-2007, 06:22 PM
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B18b doesn't work in our cars. That's not the right way to go about swapping motors...i look at the b18b(stock) as a downgrade. Accept nothing less than a 2 Liter in a 3g Lude.

You can make massive power with the b20a5, applying a turbo and it'll double its horsepower and torque. See, originally, Honda was supposed to turbo-charge our motors. The b20a(5) was a direct descendant from Honda's F1 projects in the early 80's--when they were winning left and right. . .
We have short-stroke motors, perfect for a turbine

Realistically speaking, if you want POWER, you should boost.
If you want a reliable car/motor, rebuild the motor.
If you want to be unique and wax a lot of street cars, save your $$ and invest in swapping a h22. You dont know how hard vtec hits in a h22, it literally pulls you back into the stock Recaro's we are sporting in our cars(Si).


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B18b doesn't work in our cars. That's not the right way to go about swapping motors...i look at the b18b(stock) as a downgrade. Accept nothing less than a 2 Liter in a 3g Lude.

You can make massive power with the b20a5, applying a turbo and it'll double its horsepower and torque. See, originally, Honda was supposed to turbo-charge our motors. The b20a(5) was a direct descendant from Honda's F1 projects in the early 80's--when they were winning left and right. . .
We have short-stroke motors, perfect for a turbine

Realistically speaking, if you want POWER, you should boost.
If you want a reliable car/motor, rebuild the motor.
If you want to be unique and wax a lot of street cars, save your $$ and invest in swapping a h22. You dont know how hard vtec hits in a h22, it literally pulls you back into the stock Recaro's we are sporting in our cars(Si).


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orrrrrr you can save money and build a boosted F22....
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orrrrrr you can save money and build a boosted F22....

wait a tick.... no one would ever do something ever so stupid in there life to go from a Dohc to a Sohc... and then on top of that no Vtec? the guy above must be out of his mind or just bluntly retarded for trying such a defeat..... seriously...
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SOHC heads flow better with with a turbo application.
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if you want a vtec engine get the h22, there are already custom mounts made for them, but you could also boost the b20a5 (asuming thats what you have), 2 people have achieved 400whp on a boosted b20a5
There are about 4 members on pp.com with 350+whp on a B20A? And about 10 low boost setups.

The stock engine is good up until 250whp, then you need to think about getting a stronger rotating assembly.


Other B series engine WILL work in our cars, you just need custom engine mounts.

The H22 is great but, it does weigh in a bit more then the B20A, causing the 3rd gen to be nose heavy.
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There are about 4 members on pp.com with 350+whp on a B20A? And about 10 low boost setups.

The stock engine is good up until 250whp, then you need to think about getting a stronger rotating assembly.


Other B series engine WILL work in our cars, you just need custom engine mounts.

The H22 is great but, it does weigh in a bit more then the B20A, causing the 3rd gen to be nose heavy.
there's 4? i did not know that lol, glad i do now
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:56 PM
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I wanna get a vtec engine. But my friends tell me its played out, almost every honda out there gots a vtec engine.
thats like saying going faster is played out.

if u want vtec go for it. i just started driving my 4th gen with a h22a in it like 2 days ago. and whenever i hit around 5500 i cant help but
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I'm a little confused about this... I'm a newbie when it comes to cars. I just moved to milwaukee and I got into cars when a couple of my friends took me to the strip and showed me what's hot and what's not. Maybe somebody can break it down for me when it comes to engines. I'm not too sharp about this stuff.
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exactly what are you confused about?

you never asked a particular question
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:33 PM
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which engine is a better engine? I've been presented so many different types. I Don't know anything about any of these engines. How they work, which ones better for my car... etc.
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the h22 weighs 30 lbs more than the b20a5... how does that make the car nose heavy lol. cf hood, lose a/c power steering... nad your good to go lol
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In your case Uncle, you just love yourself too much.
yes i know iam in love with myself.... wait a sec....


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You should do some more research before you put ANY money into your car. The more you know about how it all works, the easier it is to spend money correctly and intelligently to make power. A forum isn't a good place to learn about the internal workings of a specific engine, let alone gasoline engines in general. Check wikipedia, check that how-stuff-works website, they are all very helpful. This is a great link right here, don't skimp out, actually read it you'll learn a lot about a lot:
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There's a LOT of great information on that page, click "The fuel and engine bible" to learn about the way a gasoline engine works. Do your research, and have fun with it. Oh, and by the way... tell your friends they are morons, VTEC owns their life. My h22 is the first VTEC I've ever owned, and when you hit it... it is one of the best feelings ever.

Also, don't let anyone else tell you what's hot and what's not... trick your car out and then show them what's hot and what's not instead

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i personally used to have a integra ls and all i can say is......... h22 ****s on a integras engine. from stock to full mods h22 is just a much better choice
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yes i know iam in love with myself.... wait a sec....


nope that was a fart my bad
LOL, you know sometimes you make me wonder.... im jp

but yeah back to topic now, get an h22a
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:24 PM
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check it out... this guy sent me this message...

"IM trying to get ride of a h22A4 long block ready for re-build comes with crank, main caps, bolts everything u need head is complete( cams,gears, vavles, vavle springs) and i am also selling it with Manley turbo tuff rods and Wiesco turbo 9:1 pistons brand new in box. need to get rid of it need to pay for school
Asking price 1800 OBO"


Should I go for it?
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if you can afford it.. the rebuild.. and the turbo that it should have. fasho! but i dont know what im talking about. so wait for someone else to say their opinion
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That's a good price, but it sounds like you're gonna have to do the rebuild yourself. Do you know how to do that? If not, make sure to take into consideration the cost of labor. Also, take into consideration the fact that he has 9:1 compression ratio pistons in there... in other words, if you DON'T go turbo, you're going to be making LESS power than a stock h22a4... and if you DO go turbo, make sure you know that you're going to be spending at least another 3000 dollars.
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wait a tick.... no one would ever do something ever so stupid in there life to go from a Dohc to a Sohc... and then on top of that no Vtec? the guy above must be out of his mind or just bluntly retarded for trying such a defeat..... seriously...
at least you're not affraid to admit it man
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the h22 weighs 30 lbs more than the b20a5... how does that make the car nose heavy lol. cf hood, lose a/c power steering... nad your good to go lol
Trust me, it's a lot more then that. I moved my long block B20A5 by myself, me, my cousin and brother had to move the H22 longblock.
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Is it still possible to dust people with my stock twin cam engine? if I rebuild it... if so would I have to add anything to it?
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