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OK so I'm rebuilding my motor. I put it all back together. Found out I forgot the oil jet control in the block. Is the head gasket and bolts reusable after I already torqued it down?
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The bolts are reusable but the head gasket is not. Don't even try.
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REUSABLE HEAD BOLTS ,backit up ,its advise from honda that the head bolts be replace when changing head gasket , why because the torque the bolt need to be won't be meet to the specif amount of stretching the need ,unless you are using arp bolts witch are reusable.
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REUSABLE HEAD BOLTS ,backit up ,its advise from honda that the head bolts be replace when changing head gasket , why because the torque the bolt need to be won't be meet to the specif amount of stretching the need ,unless you are using arp bolts witch are reusable.
First of all, these are not torque to yield bolts. They are torqued in steps to all of 49 lb-ft. The factory service manual does not say to replace them. I have reused them on several different 3rd gen engines. And I know many others who have reused them with no issues. As long as you clean and re-oil the threads you won't have any issues.

Now it's your turn to back it up. Show me where Honda says to replace them.
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You're right. I've re-used mine and they work perfect. It's a two step torque process that's all.Too bad we all have to take off the cams to do it.
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Re: head problem

I was told by a master tech oh 80 years to put weather strip glue on certain spots around some off the holes. Any thoughts?
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I thought those holes go up to cool the head somewhat.Might have to think about that. Don't want my aluminum head getting too hot.
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Re: head problem

Do not reuse the same head gasket, buy a new one...I did the same thing, after you torque down the first time, it compresses the gasket...I don't think it's good to compress the same gasket two different times...valve cover gaskets are fine if not damaged or deteriorated but not a head gasket...
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I was told by a master tech oh 80 years to put weather strip glue on certain spots around some off the holes. Any thoughts?
No, you don't want to use any type of glue on the head gasket.
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Re: head problem

use a gasket sealant for the valve cover if you re-use is
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Re: head problem

well i used the weather strip glue like the tech told me and the car runs fine and i have no preoblems except i let someone help me and he put the piston rings in wrong so no i burn oil...but ill fix it
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I know in american piston rings there's a little dot which is used to indicate the UP position.Or TOP.
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Re: head problem

If im not mistaken Cometic's MLS Head Gaskets are reuseable. Correct me if im wrong.. ARP head studs are surely reusable. The gasket for the oil jet is of no concern. I did not replace mine and have not had any problems.
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Re: head problem

Yea I just reused head gasket from felpro, a
Head bolts from...idk. and oil jet I just dropped it back in.
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Head bolts from...idk. and oil jet I just dropped it back in.
You re-used a Fel Pro head gasket? Good luck with that. It's definitely not recommended.
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well i used the weather strip glue like the tech told me and the car runs fine and i have no preoblems except i let someone help me and he put the piston rings in wrong so no i burn oil...but ill fix it
you may not have problems now but later you may. when it comes to mechanics, experience isnt every thing. the guy could be 90 years old and still using wrong techniques he was taught several years ago. on my rx7, a guy that had been working on rotory motors since they were originated told me to use a cereal box for a water pump gasket. did i? hell no.
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you may not have problems now but later you may. when it comes to mechanics, experience isnt every thing. the guy could be 90 years old and still using wrong techniques he was taught several years ago. on my rx7, a guy that had been working on rotory motors since they were originated told me to use a cereal box for a water pump gasket. did i? hell no.
I've done that before. I cut out a gasket from a cereal box for a thermostat housing on an old Chevy. But I coated the entire thing in rtv and let it dry overnight before filling the system. It never leaked for the next two years that I owned that car.

There are a lot of tricks that experienced mechanics can teach you, but not all of their techniques apply, or are a good idea on more modern engines.
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I've done that before. I cut out a gasket from a cereal box for a thermostat housing on an old Chevy. But I coated the entire thing in rtv and let it dry overnight before filling the system. It never leaked for the next two years that I owned that car.

There are a lot of tricks that experienced mechanics can teach you, but not all of their techniques apply, or are a good idea on more modern engines.
thats exactly what im talking about. techs with years and years of experience learned the trade by working on older model engines. not modern engines with sensors out the ass.
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this guy started when he was 8 and is not like 60...so far his methods have worked. but go look at my other thread got a different project now that i might try
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this guy started when he was 8 and is not like 60...so far his methods have worked. but go look at my other thread got a different project now that i might try
Your math doesn't quite add up...first you said he is a master tech of 80 years. Then you said he started when he was 8, and is not 60?

If you're so impressed with this guy, why did you bother to ask us? I'm not trying to start anything with you, it's just that I get annoyed when people come here asking for help or advice and then argue with us when we give it. It doesn't exactly encourage us to want to help anymore.
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Don't know his real age...but I want some other opinions. I only took his advice cause I was on a low budget at the time. If it wouldn't have worked then I would a been screwed.
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I've used the cereal box for thermostat housings on american cars as well as fuel pump gaskets. But for Honda's , I don't think there is too much use for it. Especially the oil pan and valve cover gaskets.
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Your math doesn't quite add up...first you said he is a master tech of 80 years. Then you said he started when he was 8, and is not 60?

If you're so impressed with this guy, why did you bother to ask us? I'm not trying to start anything with you, it's just that I get annoyed when people come here asking for help or advice and then argue with us when we give it. It doesn't exactly encourage us to want to help anymore.
exactly!! i completly agree with this.
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