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Old 04-08-2011, 01:01 PM
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What are my options (Maintainence)

I just bought a 1988 Honda Prelude SI and I know that it needs a new waterpump. I've bought the new waterpump and timing belt. Right now it starts up no problem and the exhaust is white sometimes, it might be just water because it goes away. I know that my coolant got into my oil since it's brown. Also the engine will have a pulsing idle when it hasn't been warmed up.
What are my options? I bought the car for 1200, it is in good cosmetic condition and it's a plus that it runs, I expected it to need maintenance.
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Re: What are my options (Maintainence)

You have a bad head gasket. Replace it. You can then do the water pump and timing belt at the same time. Be aware that it's important to also replace the timing belt tensioner, as it can fail and cause the same problems as a broken timing belt would cause (bent valves).

It would also be a good time to replace the front main seal while you have the timing belt off. I had a difficult time getting that seal from my local auto parts store (NAPA). It's not listed as a front main seal. Luckily it's still available from Honda for $6.40 plus shipping on this link (#19)...

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Of course you'll also need the other gaskets for anything else you remove (valve cover, oil pan, intake manifold, etc...).
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Re: What are my options (Maintainence)

I just had kinda similar problems but much worse, I had oil in my coolant. So buy the head gasket kit, replacing all the gaskets in the kit. Water pump and all belts the tensioner, and a lot of people tend to forget the front main seal and balance shaft seal. Make sure you go oem on the water pump !! Felpro makes a good h.g. kit. While you have the head off just run it to a machine shop and have them check it for cracks, just to be safe.
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As far as I can see getting the car running well will only cost me another 70 bucks more or less when I buy a head gasket kit and belt tensioner. Do you guys think I got a good deal? I'll leave some pictures of the car later, but just off of word the car runs and I've put on 170 miles on it in two days of driving and it hasn't given me issue other then me heating up the coolant two days ago. I spent 1280 dollars on the car so far 1200 on buying it and 80 dollars in parts so far another say 100 will go for the rest of the parts I need. It's in good condition inside and out and as I can see it just needs some maintenance done to it.
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Re: What are my options (Maintainence)

are you doing maintenance yourself? if not your going to be putting in some money for the shop to replace all of those items
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I just had kinda similar problems but much worse, I had oil in my coolant. So buy the head gasket kit, replacing all the gaskets in the kit. Water pump and all belts the tensioner, and a lot of people tend to forget the front main seal and balance shaft seal. Make sure you go oem on the water pump !! Felpro makes a good h.g. kit. While you have the head off just run it to a machine shop and have them check it for cracks, just to be safe.
No balance shaft seal required since 3rd gen engines don't have balance shafts.

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As far as I can see getting the car running well will only cost me another 70 bucks more or less when I buy a head gasket kit and belt tensioner. Do you guys think I got a good deal? I'll leave some pictures of the car later, but just off of word the car runs and I've put on 170 miles on it in two days of driving and it hasn't given me issue other then me heating up the coolant two days ago. I spent 1280 dollars on the car so far 1200 on buying it and 80 dollars in parts so far another say 100 will go for the rest of the parts I need. It's in good condition inside and out and as I can see it just needs some maintenance done to it.
It really depends on the condition of the rest of the car. But honestly, I would probably pass on it if they wouldn't come down from $1200. In the end, it doesn't matter if we think it's a good deal. If you feel you got a good deal then that's all that matters.
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Re: What are my options (Maintainence)

I guess your right about it being my decision whether or not it was a bad deal or not. I don't feel that it was a bad deal.

I'm going to be doing the work myself for the most part.
The car has been ridiculously fun and cheap. The parts were amazingly cheap as well. This is the first honda I've ever bought and it's certainly the funnest I've ever driven.
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Re: What are my options (Maintainence)

Sounds like you've been bitten by the lude addiction bug.

I rebuilt my lude from the dead. Doing all the work on it yourself makes you appreciate it even more. Keep up with the maintenance and she'll give you thrills for a long time.
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Mine too came from the dead. Got it at the auction for 500 bucks and it had coolant in the oil. Head gasket changed but still had oil water mixed. Ordered a JDM B20A and now life is good. Very fun to drive.
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I guess your right about it being my decision whether or not it was a bad deal or not. I don't feel that it was a bad deal.

I'm going to be doing the work myself for the most part.
The car has been ridiculously fun and cheap. The parts were amazingly cheap as well. This is the first honda I've ever bought and it's certainly the funnest I've ever driven.
Glad to hear you're happy with it.

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Mine too came from the dead. Got it at the auction for 500 bucks and it had coolant in the oil. Head gasket changed but still had oil water mixed. Ordered a JDM B20A and now life is good. Very fun to drive.
Mine wasn't just the engine (broken piston rod). It had been rear ended and the interior was shot. I bought it for $400, mainly because of the 4ws and it had no rust. I did all the work myself, including paint and bodywork. Put in a low mileage b20a. I probably have $5000 and several hundred hours into this lude. Definitely an addiction, but worth it imo.
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Re: What are my options (Maintainence)

I have news! As far as my friend and I could tell my head gasket is fine!
My weird idle is being caused by some sensor on the intake and all I need to do is the water pump, timing belt, and tensioner like I thought. I'm going to do an oil change and it will be running well!

New question now, how well does a b20a5 deal with boost?
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The B20a5 will deal with boost much better than the B21 for the simple fact that the cylinder walls in a B21 are FRM (Fiber Reinforced Metal). The B20 has steel cylinder sleeves.
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The B20a5 will deal with boost much better than the B21 for the simple fact that the cylinder walls in a B21 are FRM (Fiber Reinforced Metal). The B20 has steel cylinder sleeves.
Thats news to me I thought the b20a5 had the FRM sleeves too, this opens up more options for tuning.
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yay another boosted a5 lude
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Not for a while, I want the car running tip top before I even touch the engine. I'll get pictures up soon.
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